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Alibaba - an unreliable reference
Penyiaran jaluran : Alistair Ian Spearing Ortiz
Alistair Ian Spearing Ortiz
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Sepanyol
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Apr 13, 2011

Hi.

Recently, I've seen quite a few fellow translators using the Alibaba website as a reference for their KudoZ answers. I'd just like to point out that Alibaba is a very, very bad reference for non-English languages, since the other versions are simply poor machine translations. This could mislead the asker, who may think a certain expression is correct when in fact it's just the result of machine translation.

It's also a good idea to avoid using Alibaba as a reference
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Hi.

Recently, I've seen quite a few fellow translators using the Alibaba website as a reference for their KudoZ answers. I'd just like to point out that Alibaba is a very, very bad reference for non-English languages, since the other versions are simply poor machine translations. This could mislead the asker, who may think a certain expression is correct when in fact it's just the result of machine translation.

It's also a good idea to avoid using Alibaba as a reference when working on your own translations. Well, now that I've said this, have a nice evening everyone!
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Giuseppina Gatta, MA (Hons)
Giuseppina Gatta, MA (Hons)
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Completely agree Apr 13, 2011

And whoever cannot even figure out that Alibaba is just a collection of machine translation strings, should not even be a translator.

 
Phil Hand
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China
Local time: 13:28
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The Chinese is pretty good... Apr 13, 2011

So go ahead if you're in my pair!

 
Tomás Cano Binder, BA, CT
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Sepanyol
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??? Apr 13, 2011

Alistair Ian Spearing Ortiz wrote:
Recently, I've seen quite a few fellow translators using the Alibaba website as a reference for their KudoZ answers.

What????

As we say in Spain, "Apaga y vámonos" i.e. "Leaving! Last one switch off the light please!".

If "professional" translators are using Alibaba as a reference, then it's best if we let machine translation do all the work. The result will probably be a better one.

[Edited at 2011-04-13 20:31 GMT]


 
Elena Sánchez-Pinto Hodgson
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Sepanyol
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Exactly Apr 14, 2011

Giuseppina Gatta, MA (Hons) wrote:

And whoever cannot even figure out that Alibaba is just a collection of machine translation strings, should not even be a translator.


Couldn't agree more...


 
Thayenga
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Jerman
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Exactly Apr 14, 2011

Elena Sánchez-Pinto Hodgson wrote:

Giuseppina Gatta, MA (Hons) wrote:

And whoever cannot even figure out that Alibaba is just a collection of machine translation strings, should not even be a translator.


Couldn't agree more...


I fully agree.

In fact, the only thing Alibaba is good for is a hearty chuckle at some of its translations( attempts)


 
Ambrose Li
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Kanada
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well… Apr 14, 2011

Phil Hand wrote:

The Chinese is pretty good...


since Alibaba is a Chinese company, I wouldn’t be surprised at that…


 
Annalisa Murara
Annalisa Murara
Jerman
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moreover.. Apr 14, 2011

... Alibaba is not only a collection of machine translation strings, as Giuseppina says, but it is SEO optimized, which is even worse!

Especially when looking for information on consumer goods, it appears at the top of search results in Google.

Maybe Google should think about changing its alghoritm in order to make stand out websites with more reliable content...

[Bearbeitet am 2011-04-14 12:02 GMT]


 
Emma Goldsmith
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Sepanyol
Local time: 07:28
Ahli (2004)
Bahasa Sepanyol hingga Bahasa Inggeris
Quite useful, actually Apr 14, 2011

I find Alibaba quite useful actually.
If I'm search for a possible term in my work and Alibaba comes up all the time, it probably means that the word doesn't really exist.


 


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