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Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

papel de 170 gramos

English translation:

120# coated printing paper (170 gsm)

Added to glossary by Barbara Thomas
Jul 31, 2007 00:48
16 yrs ago
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Spanish term

papel de 170 gramos

Spanish to English Art/Literary Printing & Publishing colophons
I'm translating a colophon and am stumped about how to state certain standard phrases. For this one, is there a way to convert this to the traditional English usage ("printed on 50 lb paper")?

se terminó de imprimir en los talleres de impresión gráfica xxx ... En su composición tipográfica se utilizaron tipos de la familia ... puntos. Se imprimió en papel Couché de 170 gramos. La composición, cuidado, supervisión e impresión estuvieron a cargo de ...
Proposed translations (English)
4 120# coated printing paper (170 gsm)
3 +3 printed on 170 gram paper
5 170 gsm paper
Change log

Aug 1, 2007 00:59: Barbara Thomas Created KOG entry

Discussion

Patricia Rosas (asker) Jul 31, 2007:
Richard and Aidee: I do appreciate the help! Sorry if I'm cranky...I'm just so tired out, I don't know whether I'm coming or going. And Taña: That table is going to come in handy, because this isn't going to be the last time I have to do such a conversion! I'll take a cue from your search string ... I wouldn't have thought to just ask for what I needed!
Taña Dalglish Jul 31, 2007:
Thanks Pat: Told you I was fooling around .. just browsing and put in search function Chart of Paper Weight? (with question sign) and that it what I got .. Glad it helps. 47 lbs. is about right (in the heavy to extra heavy paper range .. I think!).
Taña Dalglish Jul 31, 2007:
Sorry... someone came to my door and got called away for a moment. I was about to send you another but I will anyway for what it is worth http://www.jhoe.com/media/pdfs/paper_chart.PDF
R. Alex Jenkins Jul 31, 2007:
Sorry, I thought I was trying to help. Good luck with the rest of the translation.
Patricia Rosas (asker) Jul 31, 2007:
Answer: 47# Couché paper
Patricia Rosas (asker) Jul 31, 2007:
Taña: You're a genius! Thank you so much. That was precisely what I needed. How on earth did you find it?

Richard: The pt. is that in an English-lang. colophon, people expect a weight in lbs. ... with flimsy paper being 20# paper (as you can see when you buy a ream of paper--you wouldn't even be able to get 10# paper to go through a home printer). According to the chart in the link, 170 gms equates to roughly 47# bond. If I'd put 6 oz paper, I'd have been fired (seriously)...
Taña Dalglish Jul 31, 2007:
http://www.xante.com/paper/
R. Alex Jenkins Jul 31, 2007:
Patricia - Sure, it's 6 ounces alright, just can't ratify that the term is used in this way. Note that 6 ounces is darn HEAVY when talking about paper. 6 OUNCES! - that's a sixth of one whole kilo! Could it be this? (170 * 6 = 1020 grammes = 1.02 Kilos)
Patricia Rosas (asker) Jul 31, 2007:
I'm going to try to explain this better. This book is being printed on heavy grade paper (what is normally called 40# or 50# (or higher??) paper. So, if I simply do the conversion, as Richard points out, the colophon will read that the book was printed on 6 oz paper. If you think about standard home-office printer paper, it is 20# paper. So what I need to know is what this is a measurement of: is it a single sheet, 100 sheets? a ream? or is the measure not actually based on the weight of a sheet but on something else? Thanks!
Patricia Rosas (asker) Jul 31, 2007:
That's what's got me pulling out my hair. That's literally what it says, and I know that it is going to be printed on heavy weight paper, so there must a conversion. I think that 10# paper refers to how much several reams weigh (because I've bought 20# paper, I can pick the ream up with one hand). So perhaps this is the weight of a single sheet? I guess I may have to ask the publishers!
Taña Dalglish Jul 31, 2007:
And another link: http://www.metric-conversions.org/cgi-bin/util/convert.cgi
Answer: 170 g = 0.374785 lb
OR 0 lb and 5.99657 oz
Taña Dalglish Jul 31, 2007:
Hi Patricia: Maybe I am being "sonza" here, but is this a hypothetical figure? 170 grams = 0.374 785 846 lb http://www.onlineconversion.com/weight_common.htm

Proposed translations

6 hrs
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120# coated printing paper (170 gsm)

There's a nice table at this URL. It explains how papers are classified and offers equivalent weights. As couché is coated printing paper, or offset paper, I assume that 110# or 120# is what you would be looking for.

http://www.paper-paper.com/weight.html
Reference:

http://www.paper-paper.com/weight.html

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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you so very, very much. I wish I could give 100 pts. You understood my dilemma and you also saved me from myself because although I know couché is offset paper, I thought it was a brand, and worse yet, I read the wrong column on the table that Taña found for me. I've just written the publisher to ask them to make the change. Thanks again!!"
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printed on 170 gram paper

I looked online because it sounds better to write on 0.37# paper, but there are cases where grams are used.

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Note added at 40 mins (2007-07-31 01:29:22 GMT)
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In the emigre.com website, you can search "gram paper" and it will pull places within the website talking about different papers.
Also this link: http://www.imagejournal.org/eshop/posters.asp under "#1 Harvest paragraph"
Reference:

http://www.emigre.com

Note from asker:
Aidee: I went to the link (interesting-I'm a California native) but I can't find any instances of weights of paper. I'd like to see some in grams, because as I explained above to Taña, it doesn't equate when you think that we talk about printing on 50# paper. Thanks for your help!
Peer comment(s):
agree R. Alex Jenkins : I think it's 170 gramme paper - (This banner can also be printed on 170 gramme high gloss photo paper for an additional £7.00, contact [email protected] for more information) ...
20 mins
Gracias Richard....
agree Tim Jenkins : Simply "170g paper". http://www.digital-cameras.com/xpp-canon_printer_paper_photo...
3 hrs
agree cristina estanislau
11 hrs
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170 gsm paper

In Europe the weight is stated as "gsm" i.e. grammes per square metre. I attach a link which is an example of the usage of "170 gsm".
Reference:

http://www.shop.com/0-p59267537-k36-g1-~%22170+gsm+paper%22-nover-s.shtml

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