Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

sin juicio ni beneficio

English translation:

people deprived of morals and detrimental to society

Added to glossary by BertBaltodano
Jan 22, 2010 03:50
14 yrs ago
Spanish term

sin juicio ni beneficio

Spanish to English Other Religion Christianity
I'm working on a loan request for a pastor which ends with the following plea:

la ayuda que se le brindaría al señor vendría a apoyar una labor social, que a largo plazo podría significar mayor captacion de personas interesadas en la palabra de nuestro Señor Jesucristo y menos delicuentes y personas sin juicio ni beneficio.

Any help with the last phrase would be appreciated.
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Feb 15, 2010 01:17: BertBaltodano Created KOG entry

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people deprived of morals and detrimental to society

ni juicio ni beneficio has a poetic ring to it thus its difficulty in translation. The best I could do was try to give it a certain ring. Maybe you can use it as a starting point and play around with it till it has a certain ring. However, at the moment, I can´t think of an exact equivalent in English.
Peer comment(s):

agree Alicia Jordá
5 hrs
thanks
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undesirable and unwholesome

Me parece que "sin juicio ni beneficio" es una expresión idiomática que se dice de personas que, sin ser necesariamente delincuentes, son especie de vagos que tienden a tener comportamiento ocasionalmente antisocial (vandalismo, hurto, etc.).

Yo intentería algo como "undesirable and unwholesome" pero cualquier otra expresión que trasmita este significado me parece apropiada.

Suerte!
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without morals or self-worth

saludos
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people who are disadvantaged or have learning difficulties

Or a variation of these terms...

If the loan request is related to a socio-economic activity - with socio-economic benefits/aims as well as religious ones - then I would use this kind of terminology which is standard in English funding applications for social activities.

It is more lengthy than the Spanish equivalent but it (I think) expresses the same idea while striking the right register. A couple of examples given in links below:

Residential Homes for Disadvantaged People. Now showing 1 to 13 of 13. Mercy Ministries UK ... Providing care for young adults with learning difficulties ...
www.eden.co.uk/.../christian_residential_homes_disadvantage... - Cached - Simila

make it possible for people with learning difficulties to manage as much of ... for a wide range of disabled and disadvantaged people in England and Wales. ...
www.elldh.cswebsites.org/default.aspx?page=164
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without rhyme or reason

This might work...

"...criminals or those without rhyme or reason."

You'll notice I've used "those" for "personas", rather than "people"; I believe this works better in the English.

Saludos.
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