Glossary entry (derived from question below)
español term or phrase:
En un plano abstracto histórico
inglés translation:
On an abstract historical plane
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S Ben Price
Mar 16, 2010 16:25
14 yrs ago
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En un plano abstracto histórico
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More from my philosophy from hell text. Thanks everyone for the help!
Plan doesn't seem to make sense here.
In addition to my main question, I have another. Is this a question? And if it is a rhetorical question, in Spanish, doesn't it still need to have question marks? And where would they go, at the beginning or like this "... histórico, ¿puede ..."
"En un plano abstracto histórico puede uno traer a colación el cambio moral que supuso la devaluación de la virtud cristiana tradicional de la humildad en el comienzo de la modernidad política maquiavélica."
My rough draft:
In an abstract historic plan can one bring up the moral change that entailed the devaluation of traditional Christian virtue of humility at the beginning of Machiavellian political modernity
Plan doesn't seem to make sense here.
In addition to my main question, I have another. Is this a question? And if it is a rhetorical question, in Spanish, doesn't it still need to have question marks? And where would they go, at the beginning or like this "... histórico, ¿puede ..."
"En un plano abstracto histórico puede uno traer a colación el cambio moral que supuso la devaluación de la virtud cristiana tradicional de la humildad en el comienzo de la modernidad política maquiavélica."
My rough draft:
In an abstract historic plan can one bring up the moral change that entailed the devaluation of traditional Christian virtue of humility at the beginning of Machiavellian political modernity
Proposed translations
6 minutos
David Ronder
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On an abstract historical plane
It must be 'plane' not 'plan' (Oxford's definition B for the word).
Examples:
Bright Lights Film Journal :: Alive and Kicking: The Kung Fu Film ...by R Garcia - Cited by 4 - Related articles
Few martial-arts films are located in a precise time or place; rather, they take place on an abstract historical plane (like a fairy tale) that is then ...
www.brightlightsfilm.com/31/hk_alive.html - Cached - Similar
RUSSIAN PHILOSOPHY AS AN AREA OF STUDY AND AS A SPIRITUAL VALUE*On the abstract, historical plane the answer to the question of the national uniqueness of Russian philosophy is simple and axiomatic. It ...
doi.wiley.com/10.1111/j.1467-9973.1994.tb00475.x
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Note added at 7 mins (2010-03-16 16:33:37 GMT)
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Link for that second reference above:
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119968406/abstrac...
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Note added at 11 mins (2010-03-16 16:37:21 GMT)
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It iis actually quite common to refer to the historical plane in philosophy/philosophy of history - e.g.
oject MUSE - Journal of the History of Philosophy - Avicenna ...by DL Black - 1994
... White has lifted them out of their original historical plane to a position from which ... Philosophy has always stood on the past to build the future. ...
muse.jhu.edu/journals/journal_of_the...of_philosophy/.../32.4black.html
Metaphor and Historical Understandingby P Stambovsky - 1988 - Cited by 5 - Related articles
and philosophy of history fail to recognize that every historical discourse con- .... historical plane, orchestrates interpretive discourse and thereby ...
www.jstor.org/stable/2505137
<product> <article-title>Lukács and Heidegger: Towards a New ...Lucien Goldmann, Luk?cs and Heidegger: Towards a New Philosophy, trans, .... praise is offered to Marx as one who thought on an historical plane. ...
www.jstor.org/stable/20099090
Show more results from www.jstor.org
Philosophy & Social Criticismby U Reason
principles of Kant's Philosophy. Kantian transcendentalism is ..... On the historical plane, utopianism is an inevitable predicative coefficient of the ...
psc.sagepub.com/cgi/reprint/16/4/291.pdf
Examples:
Bright Lights Film Journal :: Alive and Kicking: The Kung Fu Film ...by R Garcia - Cited by 4 - Related articles
Few martial-arts films are located in a precise time or place; rather, they take place on an abstract historical plane (like a fairy tale) that is then ...
www.brightlightsfilm.com/31/hk_alive.html - Cached - Similar
RUSSIAN PHILOSOPHY AS AN AREA OF STUDY AND AS A SPIRITUAL VALUE*On the abstract, historical plane the answer to the question of the national uniqueness of Russian philosophy is simple and axiomatic. It ...
doi.wiley.com/10.1111/j.1467-9973.1994.tb00475.x
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Note added at 7 mins (2010-03-16 16:33:37 GMT)
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Link for that second reference above:
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119968406/abstrac...
--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 11 mins (2010-03-16 16:37:21 GMT)
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It iis actually quite common to refer to the historical plane in philosophy/philosophy of history - e.g.
oject MUSE - Journal of the History of Philosophy - Avicenna ...by DL Black - 1994
... White has lifted them out of their original historical plane to a position from which ... Philosophy has always stood on the past to build the future. ...
muse.jhu.edu/journals/journal_of_the...of_philosophy/.../32.4black.html
Metaphor and Historical Understandingby P Stambovsky - 1988 - Cited by 5 - Related articles
and philosophy of history fail to recognize that every historical discourse con- .... historical plane, orchestrates interpretive discourse and thereby ...
www.jstor.org/stable/2505137
<product> <article-title>Lukács and Heidegger: Towards a New ...Lucien Goldmann, Luk?cs and Heidegger: Towards a New Philosophy, trans, .... praise is offered to Marx as one who thought on an historical plane. ...
www.jstor.org/stable/20099090
Show more results from www.jstor.org
Philosophy & Social Criticismby U Reason
principles of Kant's Philosophy. Kantian transcendentalism is ..... On the historical plane, utopianism is an inevitable predicative coefficient of the ...
psc.sagepub.com/cgi/reprint/16/4/291.pdf
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4 minutos
Monika Borgers
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in an abstract historical sense/on an...level
"plano" can also mean level or sense.
Also, don't worry about the inverted word order of the sentence. It's not a question.
Also, don't worry about the inverted word order of the sentence. It's not a question.
4 minutos
At an abstract historical level
HTH
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Note added at 7 mins (2010-03-16 16:32:48 GMT)
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or 'on an abstract historical level' depending on your preferred choice of preposition.
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Note added at 7 mins (2010-03-16 16:32:48 GMT)
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or 'on an abstract historical level' depending on your preferred choice of preposition.
+1
8 minutos
Margarita Ezquerra (Smart Translators, S.L.)
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España
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España
Margarita Ezquerra (Smart Translators, S.L.)
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from an abstract-historical perspective/standpoint
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