Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
se concreta (en)
English translation:
becomes a reality / materialises (with)
Added to glossary by
margaret caulfield
Jun 9, 2010 07:10
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Spanish term
concretar? please see explanation
Spanish to English
Bus/Financial
Economics
I'm proof reading a document for which I do not have the original source text (not sure there was one, looks like it was written directly in English. It is generally excellent although this does not sound good:
The cornerstone of the Neoclassical Revolution after 1870 was the marginalist theory of distribution (Walras, 1874; Marshall, 1890; Fisher, 1930). This theory is concreted in a downward-sloping demand function for capital.
This is obviously based on "concretar" and not sure what to change it for. At the moment I have defined by - any economists out there have a better idea?
The cornerstone of the Neoclassical Revolution after 1870 was the marginalist theory of distribution (Walras, 1874; Marshall, 1890; Fisher, 1930). This theory is concreted in a downward-sloping demand function for capital.
This is obviously based on "concretar" and not sure what to change it for. At the moment I have defined by - any economists out there have a better idea?
Proposed translations
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4 +3 | becomes a reality / materialises (with) | margaret caulfield |
4 +2 | se concreta, se define | Leonardo Lamarche |
4 +1 | nothing | Nikki Graham |
4 | evidenced by | Catherine Gilsenan |
3 | epitomiz/s/e | liz askew |
3 | is borne out by | Lisa McCarthy |
3 | postulates | Andrew Langdon-Davies (X) |
References
concrete vs concretize | argosys |
Change log
Jun 11, 2010 23:50: margaret caulfield Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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becomes a reality / materialises (with)
i.e. "This theory becomes a reality /materialises with a downward-sloping demand..."
This was my first thought. Personally, I prefer "becomes a reality", but take your choice.
P.S. "materializes" if for US English.
This was my first thought. Personally, I prefer "becomes a reality", but take your choice.
P.S. "materializes" if for US English.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Many thanks for your help, Maragaret."
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nothing
I am not an economist. However, why not leave it out altogether and instead combine the sentences, as this would be more succinct.
i.e. The cornerstone of the Neoclassical Revolution after 1870 was the marginalist theory of distribution (Walras, 1874; Marshall, 1890; Fisher, 1930), a downward-sloping demand function for capital.
i.e. The cornerstone of the Neoclassical Revolution after 1870 was the marginalist theory of distribution (Walras, 1874; Marshall, 1890; Fisher, 1930), a downward-sloping demand function for capital.
Peer comment(s):
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Andy Watkinson
: The common "overwordiness" of the Spanish doesn't need replicating.
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Thanks, Andy.
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philgoddard
: Translators don't make enough use of the Nothing solution, in my opinion.
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I know. Every time I read my work through, I try to cut more out.
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argosys
: Certainly it makes since if "concretiz(s)ed" were used.
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I do not understand the point you are trying to make or why a disagree is warranted
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epitomiz/s/e
Boil down Synonyms, Boil down Antonyms | Thesaurus.com
Synonyms: abbreviate, abstract, boil down, classify, codify, compress, condense, cut, cut down, cut to bone, decrease, epitomize, get to the meat, ...
thesaurus.com/browse/boil+down - Cached
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summarize | Spanish | Dictionary & Translation by Babylon
resumir | abreviar | acortar | abstraer | condensar | compendiar | simplificar | concretar | extractar | epitomar | hacer breve | achicar | sintetizar ...
www.babylon.com/definition/summarize/Spanish - Cached - Similar
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concretarse - English Translation - Word Magic Spanish-English ...
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concretarse is an enclitic form of Spanish verb concretar ... concrete; Synonyms: hacer breve, hacer un resumen de, resumir, abreviar, compendiar, ...
www.wordmagicsoft.com/dictionary/es-en/concretarse.php - Cached
Synonyms: abbreviate, abstract, boil down, classify, codify, compress, condense, cut, cut down, cut to bone, decrease, epitomize, get to the meat, ...
thesaurus.com/browse/boil+down - Cached
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summarize | Spanish | Dictionary & Translation by Babylon
resumir | abreviar | acortar | abstraer | condensar | compendiar | simplificar | concretar | extractar | epitomar | hacer breve | achicar | sintetizar ...
www.babylon.com/definition/summarize/Spanish - Cached - Similar
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concretarse - English Translation - Word Magic Spanish-English ...
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concretarse is an enclitic form of Spanish verb concretar ... concrete; Synonyms: hacer breve, hacer un resumen de, resumir, abreviar, compendiar, ...
www.wordmagicsoft.com/dictionary/es-en/concretarse.php - Cached
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is borne out by
Another idea, though I'm no economist either :)
What Is This Thing Called Science? - Google Books Result
Alan F. Chalmers - 2006 - Science - 288 pages
No matter which comes first, the facts or the theory, the question to be addressed is the extent to which the **theory is borne out by the facts***. ...
books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=0702230936...
What Is This Thing Called Science? - Google Books Result
Alan F. Chalmers - 2006 - Science - 288 pages
No matter which comes first, the facts or the theory, the question to be addressed is the extent to which the **theory is borne out by the facts***. ...
books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=0702230936...
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se concreta, se define
Mi sugerencia.
se concreta ( o se define) en una función de demanda descendiente para capitales.
se concreta ( o se define) en una función de demanda descendiente para capitales.
Peer comment(s):
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jude dabo
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Muchas gracias Jude.
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Juan Moreno
: "Se define", es a mi juicio lo mas adecuado.
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Muchas gracias Juan.
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postulates
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evidenced by
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or "as evidenced by"
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Note added at 1 day6 hrs (2010-06-10 13:13:04 GMT)
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or "as evidenced by"
Reference comments
1 day 3 hrs
Reference:
concrete vs concretize
If the original text was in English, the word used was most probably "concretized". There is a tendency for translators to render "concretar" to "concrete" in verb form, instead of the usual correct form "concretize".
The Oxford Spanish-English Business Dictionary translates concretar as "to fix, to set"
English definitions of the verb form concrete and concretize:
A. Concrete –verb (used with object) (concretes, concreting, concreted)
10 to treat or lay with concrete: to concrete a sidewalk.
11. to form into a mass by coalescence of particles; render solid.
12. to make real, tangible, or particular.
–verb (used without object)
13. to coalesce into a mass; become solid; harden.
14. to use or apply concrete.
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B. con·cre·tize (concretizes, concretizing, concretized)
to make concrete, real, or particular; give tangible or definite form to: to concretize abstractions.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/concretize
"This theory is concretized in a downward-sloping demand function for capital." is the appropriate rendering of this sentence. It is valid use of the term to express the view that a theory is "set" or "fixed" in the downward-sloping demand curve for capital. It means that economists can agree on the basis of the relationships shown by the demand curve. Unlike philosophers who can argue endlessly until the cows come home, economists convince one another and reconcile their views through the logic of graphs and formulas.
The Oxford Spanish-English Business Dictionary translates concretar as "to fix, to set"
English definitions of the verb form concrete and concretize:
A. Concrete –verb (used with object) (concretes, concreting, concreted)
10 to treat or lay with concrete: to concrete a sidewalk.
11. to form into a mass by coalescence of particles; render solid.
12. to make real, tangible, or particular.
–verb (used without object)
13. to coalesce into a mass; become solid; harden.
14. to use or apply concrete.
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B. con·cre·tize (concretizes, concretizing, concretized)
to make concrete, real, or particular; give tangible or definite form to: to concretize abstractions.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/concretize
"This theory is concretized in a downward-sloping demand function for capital." is the appropriate rendering of this sentence. It is valid use of the term to express the view that a theory is "set" or "fixed" in the downward-sloping demand curve for capital. It means that economists can agree on the basis of the relationships shown by the demand curve. Unlike philosophers who can argue endlessly until the cows come home, economists convince one another and reconcile their views through the logic of graphs and formulas.
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