Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
no preciso estertores
English translation:
no detectable rales
Added to glossary by
Neil Ashby
Sep 9, 2020 11:23
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Spanish term
no preciso estertores
Spanish to English
Medical
Medical (general)
Respiratory system
In a medical report by a Madrid doctor, the doctor sums up his examination of the patient's respiratory system as follows: "APARATO RESPIRATORIO: MV AUDIBLE, NO PRECISO ESTERTORES". I see from the Internet that this phrase, "No preciso estertores", appears in other medical reports, but I can't find anything explaining what it means. Is "preciso" a verb here? Any help is appreciated.
Proposed translations
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| 4 +6 | no detectable rales/wheezing |
Neil Ashby
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| 4 +1 | I am unable to detect crackles/rales |
liz askew
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| 4 +1 | I do not discern wheezing |
Nick Harding
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Change log
Sep 11, 2020 11:11: Neil Ashby Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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Neil Ashby
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no detectable rales/wheezing
Although the Spanish may be written in the first person, I definitely wouldn't use first person in a report in English, sounds very unnatural and informal; it's the wrong register for a medical report.
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María Patricia Arce
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Thanks María
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Mario Muchacho
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Thanks Mario
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Hazel Hayman
: No audible wheezing
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Thanks Hazel
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Chema Nieto Castañón
: Crakles or rales, but no wheezing; I may be wrong, but crackles (or rales; crepitantes, "estertores") are not the same as wheezing (sibilantes).
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Gracias Chema
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Leda Roche
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Gracias Leda
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liz askew
: Not wheezing, see: https://www.proz.com/personal-glossaries/entry/471258-wheezi...
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Antonella Perazzoni
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Gracias Antonella
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "I went for "no detectable crackles" in the end, but your contributions on the proper tone were very helpful. Thanks."
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16 mins
I am unable to detect crackles/rales
https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk00SDyNq7L0Ng6b4JEBE...
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Crackle - an overview | ScienceDirect Topicswww.sciencedirect.com › topics › medicine-and-dentistry
Crackles will be detected higher in the chest with worsening severity of HF. ... 33%, and heart failure at 37% of inspiration.86 This suggests that more tension is ...
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ascertain
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TABLE 2 Lung sound nomenclature in the six most widely ...erj.ersjournals.com › highwire › markup › expansion
Fine (high pitched, low amplitude, short duration), 1987 nomenclature [23], Fine crackles, Râles crepitants, Feines Rasseln, Estertores finos, Estertores finos.
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Crackle - an overview | ScienceDirect Topicswww.sciencedirect.com › topics › medicine-and-dentistry
Crackles will be detected higher in the chest with worsening severity of HF. ... 33%, and heart failure at 37% of inspiration.86 This suggests that more tension is ...
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Note added at 17 mins (2020-09-09 11:40:58 GMT)
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OR
ascertain
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Note added at 19 mins (2020-09-09 11:43:23 GMT)
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TABLE 2 Lung sound nomenclature in the six most widely ...erj.ersjournals.com › highwire › markup › expansion
Fine (high pitched, low amplitude, short duration), 1987 nomenclature [23], Fine crackles, Râles crepitants, Feines Rasseln, Estertores finos, Estertores finos.
Note from asker:
| Thanks very much for your contribution. I went with "crackles" in the end, but with Neil's wording and tone. |
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14 mins
I do not discern wheezing
Aquí, preciso es un verbo.
No sería: RESPIRATORY APPARATUS: AUDIBLE VESICULAR MURMUR, NO WHEEZING DISCERNED
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Hello Neil, you are correct, I realised that 'no wheezing discerned' was more appropriate as I posted 'I do not discern....'. You're also correct, in my opinion, with 'no discernible wheezing'.
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Hi Neil, IMO you're right, I was a bit hasty, the correct answer should be: "no wheezing discerned" or, as you suggested, "no discernible wheezing".
No sería: RESPIRATORY APPARATUS: AUDIBLE VESICULAR MURMUR, NO WHEEZING DISCERNED
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Hello Neil, you are correct, I realised that 'no wheezing discerned' was more appropriate as I posted 'I do not discern....'. You're also correct, in my opinion, with 'no discernible wheezing'.
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Hi Neil, IMO you're right, I was a bit hasty, the correct answer should be: "no wheezing discerned" or, as you suggested, "no discernible wheezing".
Note from asker:
| Thanks for your contribution. I'm taking note of "no discernable .....", in case I ever run up against "no preciso" again. |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Neil Ashby
: I agree with "no wheezing discerned" (or no discernible wheezing), but "I do not discern" sounds unnatural and is the wrong register, IMO, for a medical report.
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Discussion
as determinar o localizar de modo preciso. No crackles (no crackles/rales were noticed).