Jan 24, 2022 21:28
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Spanish term

Como carne de cañón.....

Spanish to English Other Military / Defense Military terms
I would like to know the best translation of this phrase from Peruvian Spanish into American English.

Translator colleagues from Spain, feel free to send me your suggestions as well. This is a translation of a Peruvian security guard interview. He used to work in the middle east.

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Me estaban tratando en ese país del medio oriente como Carne de cañón. Me tocaba trabajar en sitios peligrosos.
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Proposed translations

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as cannon fodder

Me estaban tratando en ese país del medio oriente como Carne de cañón. Me tocaba trabajar en sitios peligrosos.
I was being treated as cannon fodder in that middle-eastern country; It was my lot to work in dangerous places.

cannon fodder
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noun
soldiers regarded merely as material to be expended in war.
"they ended up serving as cannon fodder in Vietnam"
Translate cannon fodder to
Spanish
noun
1. carne de cañón
Definitions from Oxford Languages
Note from asker:
Thanks Andrea.
Thanks a lot Andrew!
Peer comment(s):

agree Althea Draper : Ha! We must have posted at exactly the same time!
1 min
Yep, thanks;
agree Caroliniano (X)
23 mins
Thank you!
agree Marouchka Heijnen
9 hrs
Thank you!
agree neilmac
14 hrs
Thank you!
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9 mins

as canon fodder

Note from asker:
Thanks Miss Altea.
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neutral Jennifer Levey : canNon fodder
1 hr
Yes, you're right - sorry!
neutral neilmac : Tut tut ;)
14 hrs
I know! Sorry! Will try harder :)
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as nothing more than cannon fodder

As something less than flesh and bone, or human, used as pawns to gain a military victory. I think it is important to add the "nothing more".

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Note added at 33 mins (2022-01-24 22:01:30 GMT)
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"carne" in the source text, reflecting the "FLESH and bone" aspect of the whole idea.
Note from asker:
Thanks Miss Cochran.
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https://www.wordreference.com/es/en/translation.asp?spen=car...
Spanish English
carne de cañón loc nom f (soldados prescindibles) cannon fodder n
Los soldados del frente eran carne de cañón.
The soldiers in front were cannon fodder.
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carne de cañón loc nom f coloquial (plebe, chusma) rabble, riffraff n

****Previous glossary entry with 24 agrees "cannon fodder".
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/linguistics/83...

1891 *Cannon-fodder [in N.E.D.]. 1898 G. B. Shaw Our Theatres in Nineties (1932) III. 287 Peter [the Great], regarding children as future cannon-fodder, was as terribly severe on infanticide as he was infinitely indulgent to illegitimacy. 1950 Partridge Here, There & Everywhere 65 Cannon-fodder was never very popular with British troops.

George Bernard Shaw -- A Socialist Playwright - IndianFolkhttps://www.indianfolk.com › george-bernard-shaw-soc...
23 May 2019 — George Bernard Shaw — A Socialist Playwright ... the midst of conflict, have no business offering themselves for sacrifice as cannon fodder.

George Bernard Shaw: Joyriding on the Front | Century Irelandhttps://www.rte.ie › centuryireland › index.php › articles
George Bernard Shaw: Joyriding on the Front | The Century Ireland project is an ... the combing out of civilians as the need for more cannon fodder made the ...

CANNONS QUOTES [PAGE - 6] https://www.azquotes.com › quotes › topics › cannons
You are being used as cannon fodder for U.S. imperialism. Jane Fonda · Imperialism, Used, Fodder ... George Bernard Shaw · Feet, Goes On, Revolution. 6 Copy.

Personally, I would have been more inclined to go with "rabble" or "riffraff".


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https://www.rte.ie/centuryireland/index.php/articles/george-...
“The appalling, slaughterous British offensives that just stopped short of getting there; the bombarded coast towns about which our authorities lied so heroically; the holocausts of British youth sacrificed in holding the ground for French offensives that never came off; the air raided cities and torpedoed ships; the Red Cross vans with their loads of mutilated men; the combing out of civilians as the need for more ***cannon fodder*** made the medical examinations for fitness less and less fastidious and the tribunals more and more inflexible:

What is another word for cannon fodder?
synonyms for cannon-fodder
food for powder, fresh fish, militiaman, trooper and fodder.


What is cannon fodder in slang?
Definition of cannon fodder
1 : soldiers regarded or treated as expendable in battle. 2 : an expendable or exploitable person, group, or thing celebrities who have become cannon fodder for the tabloids.


https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/another-word-for/cannon_fo...
What is another word for cannon fodder?
Expendable soldiers
food for powder/forlorn hope/fresh fish/militiaman/trooper
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