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Nov 14, 2022 09:59
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Spanish term

por los procesos de estratificación atravesados por el conflicto

Spanish to English Social Sciences Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc.
An interesting research article on whether perceived vulnerability to violence can be used to predict the incidence of diabetes in teenagers. Written with all the usual clarity, conciseness and frugality of language common to Spanish authors.... (ahem!)

[El constructo*] se refiere al proceso cognitivo de la construcción de vulnerabilidad y la respuesta emocional frente a la vivencia de la violencia colectiva cotidiana de adolescentes con residencia en contextos afectados por actividades de grupos delincuenciales y enfrentamientos con la autoridad en situación de adversidad social por los procesos de estratificación atravesados por el conflicto.

*El constructo "Percepción de Vulnerabilidad por Violencia en Situación de Conflicto Social”

For the first part I have:
"It refers to the cognitive process of constructing vulnerability and to the emotional response to experiencing collective violence on a daily basis for adolescents living in situations affected by the activities of criminal groups and confrontations with authorities in situations of social adversity..."

Can anyone please help untangle the rest!
Proposed translations (English)
3 due to the stratification processes affected by the conflict
4 +1 Due to pecking order issues wrought by the conflict
3 +1 by/due to conflict-wracked social stratification
3 Due to the conflict-ridden tier system
References
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Discussion

Lisa Rosengard Nov 21, 2022:
The topic of social stratification is interesting. I understood that social stratification is about the varying economic, social, gender-based, age-related or ethnic classes of society. If I understand the question, it suggests that social or familial problems enhance social diversities and therefore they induce further social stratification. In those cases the additional social strata or social class sub-divisions are related to social circumstances which can change. Further analysis in the question asks whether those social problems, which might involve violence, induce particular illnesses such as diabetes in young people, and in so doing they create another social class sub-division or strata which is circumstantial and health related. In short, another social class sub-division or strata is based on vulnerability.
Wendy Cummings (asker) Nov 15, 2022:
The process so far... I'm going to have to carefully ponder the points allocation for this question - all the answerers so far have contributed valuable input. Obviously you don't have the benefit of the full article, but here is my thought process so far:
- "atravesados por el conflicto" = I think I will go for "conflict-driven", because the idea is that the social divisions are the product of the violence experienced in these communities, and not just an incidental feature of it
- "estratificacion" Due to the tone of the article, I think I will stick with stratification. I originally was leaning towards "pecking order", but that implies more of a top-down hierarchy with interactions between them (trying hard not to reference Monty Python...!), whereas the implication is more that society has been split into layers/strata that are almost isolated from each other, and the stratum in question gets abandoned/overlooked by healthcare and other services. I'm happy that it's use extends beyond geology!
- as for the repeated use of "social", I will probably play with the sentence a bit and try to use the noun form "society" for some of the instances.
Wendy Cummings (asker) Nov 15, 2022:
I too was wondering whether to split the sentence. I do often question whether Spaniards are fully versed in the use of the full stop!!. However, for this particular instance I will stick with "adversity" because the context in the rest of the article makes it clear that it's more about having to cope with marginalisation and stigmatisation, as well as abandonment by the authorities, rather than simple poverty.
philgoddard Nov 14, 2022:
You should break down the long, wordy sentence. How about:

"This is the cognitive construction of vulnerability, and the emotional response to everyday collective violence. It affects adolescents experiencing poverty, gang activity, and confrontations with the authorities, and causes social stratification."

I put "poverty" rather than "social adversity" to avoid repeating "social".

Proposed translations

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due to the stratification processes affected by the conflict

Keeping it simple.
"Atravesado" means gone through or pierced, but at the end of the day it really just means that all the different strata (stratification is not only a geological term) or layers/levels of society are affected by the conflict.
I wouldn't bother trying to shoehorn in anything about conflict-ridden or wracked. The Spanish is long-winded enough to begin with.
Reference:

https://www.caixabankresearch.com/en/economics-markets/inflation/which-sectors-are-most-affected-conflict-ukraine

Peer comment(s):
neutral Andrew Bramhall : 'Exacerbated' might work better than 'affected';// definitely a negative connotation, so re your comment -honi soit qui mal y pense. Real 'pooh-pooing' is calling out another's comment as bull poo-poo.
17 mins
If we want to emphasise the negative effect/impact, then yes, it might. Does my suggestion REALLY merit a neutral pooh-poohing though? I think not :)
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Due to pecking order issues wrought by the conflict

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominance_hierarchy



[The construct] refers to the cognitive processes involved in the construction of vulnerability and the emotional response to the experience of daily collective violence suffered by adolescents living in social contexts affected by the activities of criminal groups and confrontations with authority in situations of social adversity due to pecking-order issues brought about by the conflict.
Peer comment(s):
agree philgoddard : I'm in two minds about "pecking-order issues" - it might be better to stick to "social stratification". But you've understood correctly that the kids experience it as a result of the conflict.
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Thanks Phil! Yes, 'pecking-order' is a much used term, and 'stratification' sounds too clinical to me
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by/due to conflict-wracked social stratification

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GCSE Sociology Knowledge Organiser Social stratification
https://chaseterraceacademy.co.uk › 2021/06 › Y1...
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Marxists Social stratification is negative for society. Society is based on conflict and status is 'ascribed' – is fixed at birth by class and cannot be ...

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Social Stratification : Functional Theory, And Conflict... | Bartleby
https://www.bartleby.com › essay › Social-Stratification...
The conflict theory believes that stratification occurs through a conflict between different classes, with the upper classes using superior power to take a ...

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Subalternidad y vida cotidiana en las ciudades andinas ... - Calenda
https://calenda.org › ...
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... andina está atravesado por los conflictos que caracterizan estas sociedades como son: las distinciones étnico-raciales en la estratificación social, ...
Peer comment(s):
agree Jessica Noyes
1 hr
disagree philgoddard : I think you've chosen the wrong verb - stratification can't be wracked by conflict. You may have misunderstood "por", which means "because of", not "by".
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agree neilmac : I prefer "stratification" to "pecking order" ... and I call BS on Andrew's comment, which refers to the 2nd definition of stratification in Geology. The first is as follows: "the arrangement or classification of something into different groups."
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neutral Andrew Bramhall : Agree with Phil's comments; 'stratification' is more for rock formations in geology, though used in these contexts; 'layering' would work better as a synonym IMHO.
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Due to the conflict-ridden tier system

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Reference comments

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Reference:

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Note from asker:
Thanks Liz, good reference
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