Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
beating the odds
Dutch translation:
alle voorspellingen tarten, tegen alle verwachtingen in toch slagen
English term
Beating the odds
Apr 5, 2013 09:57: Jack den Haan changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/1444484">Opdenakker's</a> old entry - "Beating the odds"" to ""alle voorspellingen tarten, tegen alle verwachtingen in toch slagen""
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Proposed translations
alle voorspellingen tarten, tegen alle verwachtingen in toch slagen
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Note added at 34 mins (2013-03-29 11:58:53 GMT)
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Oxford Dictionary:
odds
► plural noun the ratio between the amounts staked by the parties to a bet, based on the expected probability either way: Nicer is starting at odds of 8-1 ; it is possible for the race to be won at very long odds.
(usu. the odds) the chances or likelihood of something happening or being the case: the odds are that he is no longer alive ; the odds against this ever happening are high.
(usu. the odds) the balance of advantage; superiority in strength, power, or resources: she clung to the lead against all the odds ; the odds were overwhelmingly in favour of the banks rather than the customer.
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Note added at 6 days (2013-04-05 09:56:14 GMT) Post-grading
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@Asker: Graag gedaan Raymond!
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Kitty Brussaard
: Welke formulering het best past is afhankelijk van de specifieke context, en die hebben wij er helaas niet bij gekregen :-)
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Tja, context is everything in this business. Bedankt Kitty.
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freekfluweel
: tarten!
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Bedankt Freek.
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Jenny Dequick
: tarten = defy
ok ik geef je een "agree", maar tarten heeft nog een iets andere nuance in de praktijk (in het Belgisch:-))
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Grote Van Dale: tarten = (...) overtreffen. Dat komt aardig in de buurt van je eigen voorstel ;-) // Bedankt Janny. Kunnen ze bij Van Dale ook opgelucht ademhalen. Daar heb ik nl. mijn antwoord vandaan geplukt ;-
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beter presteren dan verwacht (mag worden)
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Kitty Brussaard
: En welke formulering het best past is inderdaad afhankelijk van de specifieke context.
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Tegen alle verwachtingen in
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Kitty Brussaard
: Inderdaad, meer context zou welkom zijn :-)
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Inderdaad. Bedankt
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Jan Willem van Dormolen (X)
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Bedankt
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Jenny Dequick
: Deze vertaling is eigenlijk "against all odds" maar in de context zou het misschien hetzelfde kunnen betekenen
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zijn kansen of mogelijkheden overtreffen; zichzelf overtreffen
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freekfluweel
: Wordt meer in zijn algemeenheid gebruikt, hoeft niet per se naar een persoon te verwijzen.
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kan ook. Bv. een nieuw informaticaprogramma dat mogelijkheden heeft overtroffen
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Discussion
Ik denk nog even na over een meer pakkende manier van zeggen.