Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
By the mid-20th century
English answer:
Perfectly usual turn of phrase: Read style guide references.
Added to glossary by
Allison Wright (X)
Mar 27, 2011 19:28
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By the mid-20th century
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Grammatical opinions
My (long) text abounds with chronological references.
e.g. At the beginning of/Towards the end of/It was not until the Xth century.
This is the first mention of being "in the middle of" a century.
I would be grateful if less fatigued fellow translators could tell me if the phrase above is usual, and acceptable, in the format typed above. At this stage it looks a little like a "txt msg" to me.
TIA
e.g. At the beginning of/Towards the end of/It was not until the Xth century.
This is the first mention of being "in the middle of" a century.
I would be grateful if less fatigued fellow translators could tell me if the phrase above is usual, and acceptable, in the format typed above. At this stage it looks a little like a "txt msg" to me.
TIA
Responses
4 +13 | Perfectly usual turn of phrase | Jennifer Levey |
4 +1 | OK but if not a technical text I suggest writing out 2Oth | Jenni Lukac (X) |
References
Depends on the client and destination | B D Finch |
Responses
+13
5 mins
Selected
Perfectly usual turn of phrase
There's nothing unusual about it at all. It's one of those very 'English' approximations, probably pointing (albeit vaguely) to 1950 +/- five or ten years.
Peer comment(s):
agree |
MedTrans&More
: with 'by' meaning 'until/up to'
4 mins
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agree |
Jack Doughty
29 mins
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agree |
Noni Gilbert Riley
30 mins
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agree |
Tony M
: Absolutely! And I don't see any harm in leaving 20th in figures, we talk all the time about "the 20th century" and we write "the 1930s" (although admittedly "the Roaring Twenties"!)
41 mins
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agree |
eski
2 hrs
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agree |
B D Finch
3 hrs
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agree |
Phong Le
4 hrs
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agree |
Rachel Fell
13 hrs
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agree |
Simon Mac
15 hrs
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agree |
jccantrell
: Fine by me in the USA.
19 hrs
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agree |
Tina Vonhof (X)
: I think writing out the numbers would make it cumbersome to read.
20 hrs
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agree |
Thuy-PTT (X)
1 day 6 hrs
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agree |
Jocelyne S
1 day 18 hrs
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+1
4 mins
OK but if not a technical text I suggest writing out 2Oth
This is a question of style, but if given the choice, I would write out "twentieth".
Reference comments
3 hrs
Reference:
Depends on the client and destination
But you should be consistent.
The Guardian Style Guide:
'style guide illustrations ..... 21st century. but hyphenate if adjectival: "newspapers of the 21st century", "21st-century newspapers" ...'
Cambridge History Journal Style Guide:
Dates should be written in the form: 20 December 1148; 20 December; AD 245-50. Centuries should be written out (twenty-first century) and 1920s etc. should be written without an apostrophe.
The editorial style guide of the publications and website of The Royal College of Surgeons of ... eg fifth century; adjectivally with a hyphen, eg 20th-century surgery ..... Oxford: Blackwell Scientific Publications; 1993. pp58–69. ...
www.rcseng.ac.uk/publications/submissions/collegestyleguide...
And the BBCL
"we don't capitalise hours, time of day, seasons or centuries - four o'clock, morning, summer, the fifth century."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/journalism/apps/tutor/html/capitals/ind...
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Note added at 3 hrs (2011-03-27 23:04:34 GMT)
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Here is the full quotation from the RCS:
" third century BC, AD1620, 1000BC, the 18th century, etc
written if 1–10, eg fifth century
adjectivally with a hyphen, eg 20th-century surgery"
So, they would go for tenth century, 11th century 12th century etc.
The Guardian Style Guide:
'style guide illustrations ..... 21st century. but hyphenate if adjectival: "newspapers of the 21st century", "21st-century newspapers" ...'
Cambridge History Journal Style Guide:
Dates should be written in the form: 20 December 1148; 20 December; AD 245-50. Centuries should be written out (twenty-first century) and 1920s etc. should be written without an apostrophe.
The editorial style guide of the publications and website of The Royal College of Surgeons of ... eg fifth century; adjectivally with a hyphen, eg 20th-century surgery ..... Oxford: Blackwell Scientific Publications; 1993. pp58–69. ...
www.rcseng.ac.uk/publications/submissions/collegestyleguide...
And the BBCL
"we don't capitalise hours, time of day, seasons or centuries - four o'clock, morning, summer, the fifth century."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/journalism/apps/tutor/html/capitals/ind...
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Note added at 3 hrs (2011-03-27 23:04:34 GMT)
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Here is the full quotation from the RCS:
" third century BC, AD1620, 1000BC, the 18th century, etc
written if 1–10, eg fifth century
adjectivally with a hyphen, eg 20th-century surgery"
So, they would go for tenth century, 11th century 12th century etc.
Reference:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/styleguide/t
http://www.cambridgehistoryjournal.co.uk/CUHJ/Style_Guide.html
Note from asker:
All of these references are incredibly helpful. Thank you. |
Discussion
Where did that idea come from? It's certainly not 'consensual' as far as I'm concerned.
I've also seen it spelled out "mid-twentieth" - that gets 1.4 million ghits.