Hyphen Rules in English Penyiaran jaluran : Movingpix
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Movingpix 
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Hello everyone,
I am proofreading a document written in English and came
across the following usage of hyphens.
"Company ABC suggested beam width of 8-degrees, which was..."
"...accuracy of wind direction of less than 5-degrees"
However, in another sentence within the same document, I see the following.
"Company ABC will the consult the end user of the project to supply
the most optimal beam width in the range of 4 to 12 degre... See more Hello everyone,
I am proofreading a document written in English and came
across the following usage of hyphens.
"Company ABC suggested beam width of 8-degrees, which was..."
"...accuracy of wind direction of less than 5-degrees"
However, in another sentence within the same document, I see the following.
"Company ABC will the consult the end user of the project to supply
the most optimal beam width in the range of 4 to 12 degrees"
Should there be a hyphen in the first two sentences?
And therefore also in the third sentence?
This seems to suggest there should be a hyphen
http://www.edufind.com/English/punctuation/hyphen.cfm
ex) He won the 100-meter sprint.
Any help would be greatly appreciated,
thank you ▲ Collapse
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Hi there,
I don't get it where you drew the analogy from, when contrasting:
beam width of 8-degrees and the 100-meter sprint ?
Maybe I'm missing something?
For me, things in the "the 100-meter sprint" are completely clear, because 100-meter functions as a premodifier of the sprint noun. That would the same as a 23-year-old girl or a long-legged woman etc.
Those are premodifiers basically functioning as adjecti... See more Hi there,
I don't get it where you drew the analogy from, when contrasting:
beam width of 8-degrees and the 100-meter sprint ?
Maybe I'm missing something?
For me, things in the "the 100-meter sprint" are completely clear, because 100-meter functions as a premodifier of the sprint noun. That would the same as a 23-year-old girl or a long-legged woman etc.
Those are premodifiers basically functioning as adjectives ( the hyphen rule, to which there are some exceptions of course).
In regard with "beam width of 8-degrees", I have no idea why the hyphen was used there, frankly. Never seen anything like that before. Maybe this is a chance for me to learn something new. ▲ Collapse
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Sepanyol
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| Simple answer | Sep 13, 2009 |
Noun forms, no hyphens
When converted to adjectives, use a hyphen
an 8-degree angle (= an angle of 8 degrees)
a 6-foot fall (= a fall of 6 feet)
"Company ABC will the consult the end user of the project to supply the most optimal beam width in the range of 4 to 12 degrees"
The usage that you asked about in this last sentence is correct.
Although the "most optimal" is very bothersome (!), also 2 other things in the sentence ... but I... See more Noun forms, no hyphens
When converted to adjectives, use a hyphen
an 8-degree angle (= an angle of 8 degrees)
a 6-foot fall (= a fall of 6 feet)
"Company ABC will the consult the end user of the project to supply the most optimal beam width in the range of 4 to 12 degrees"
The usage that you asked about in this last sentence is correct.
Although the "most optimal" is very bothersome (!), also 2 other things in the sentence ... but I'll stop myself correcting:-)
[Edited at 2009-09-13 23:38 GMT] ▲ Collapse
| | | | | Adjectival compound or not, that is the question | Sep 13, 2009 |
The example you cited is listed under this point:
"3. Use a hyphen when the number forms part of an adjectival compound:
* France has a 35-hour working week.
* He won the 100-metre sprint.
* Charles Dickens was a great nineteenth-century novelist."
Here, 35-hour, 100-metre, nineteenth-century are adjectives, right?
Look at those compounds in your sentences:
"beam width of 8-degrees" and "accuracy ... of less than 5-degrees"
... See more The example you cited is listed under this point:
"3. Use a hyphen when the number forms part of an adjectival compound:
* France has a 35-hour working week.
* He won the 100-metre sprint.
* Charles Dickens was a great nineteenth-century novelist."
Here, 35-hour, 100-metre, nineteenth-century are adjectives, right?
Look at those compounds in your sentences:
"beam width of 8-degrees" and "accuracy ... of less than 5-degrees"
Are those adjectives here?
I don't think so, therefore no hyphens needed.
If instead, you are talking about "an 8-degree wide beam" or "a 5-degree accuracy", than those are adjectives, right? In this case, you would use the hyphens.
Katalin ▲ Collapse
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| Serve as adjectives, yes | Sep 13, 2009 |
Katalin Horvath McClure wrote:
Here, 35-hour, 100-metre, nineteenth-century are adjectives, right?
Well, they function as adjectives, but don't technically have adjectival forms.
Although there is a possibility that the "beam width of 8-degrees" is some sneaky exception or alike. I love those
| | | | JoFP
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Katalin Horvath McClure wrote:
If instead, you are talking about "an 8-degree wide beam" or "a 5-degree accuracy", than those are adjectives, right? In this case, you would use the hyphens.
Katalin
It might actually be an "8-degree-wide beam," since "wide" is probably part of the adjectival compound. And that's where the hyphenation can start getting ridiculous.
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Thank you very much for your help everyone.
[Edited at 2009-09-14 01:16 GMT]
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