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Laureana Pavon 
Uruguay
Local time: 20:14
Ahli (2007)
Bahasa Inggeris hingga Bahasa Sepanyol
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PENYELARAS
I just received a job notification for an in-house translation/editing position.
I understand that a potential employer can apply whatever selection criteria he/she wishes, but I think that ProZ should not allow this kind of gender discrimination, which I think is absolutely preposterous.
I don't know if this is the right place to complain, but let me repeat that ProZ should not allow this on the site.
I hope someone takes a look at this issue.
Thanks... See more I just received a job notification for an in-house translation/editing position.
I understand that a potential employer can apply whatever selection criteria he/she wishes, but I think that ProZ should not allow this kind of gender discrimination, which I think is absolutely preposterous.
I don't know if this is the right place to complain, but let me repeat that ProZ should not allow this on the site.
I hope someone takes a look at this issue.
Thanks,
Laureana
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Marijke Singer
Sepanyol
Local time: 01:14
Bahasa Sepanyol hingga Bahasa Inggeris
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| Agree with Laureana | Jan 7, 2009 |
The only reason for specifying gender is for voice-over jobs (I think).
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darkokoporcic
Slovenia
Local time: 01:14
Ahli (2005)
Bahasa Jerman hingga Bahasa Slovenia
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| You are absolutely right | Jan 7, 2009 |
I think they should definitely be banned from ProZ.com and, if the company is based in the US or Europe (which it is probably not), adequately prosecuted.
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Tina Vonhof (X)
Kanada
Local time: 17:14
Bahasa Belanda hingga Bahasa Inggeris
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I looked at the job posting and I don't see any mention of gender. Are we not looking at the same posting?
Note added:
I tried again and this time went to a different posting. Indeed it specifies "(Male only)". I would want to find out the reason before calling for a ban. You should contact the job moderators.
[Edited at 2009-01-07 20:58 GMT]
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Viktoria Gimbe
Kanada
Local time: 19:14
Bahasa Inggeris hingga Bahasa Perancis
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| Tough luck to them | Jan 7, 2009 |
It would seem that about three quarters of translators are female, so if ProZ or other interested parties don't force them to change their minds, the market eventually will.
Nonetheless, I agree. This kind of discriminatory behaviour should not be tolerated on the site, and ProZ should adopt a one-strike-and-you're-out approach to this type of misconduct. That is, not only should the job post be removed, but the profile of the job poster as well.
Can somebody please con... See more It would seem that about three quarters of translators are female, so if ProZ or other interested parties don't force them to change their minds, the market eventually will.
Nonetheless, I agree. This kind of discriminatory behaviour should not be tolerated on the site, and ProZ should adopt a one-strike-and-you're-out approach to this type of misconduct. That is, not only should the job post be removed, but the profile of the job poster as well.
Can somebody please contact me to tell me the name of this company so I can blacklist them for my business? Since I don't qualify (must be because I am female ), the contact info and the identity are hidden to me.
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Viktoria Gimbe
Kanada
Local time: 19:14
Bahasa Inggeris hingga Bahasa Perancis
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| It's in the title of the job post - it says male only | Jan 7, 2009 |
Tina Vonhof wrote:
I looked at the job posting and I don't see any mention of gender. Are we not looking at the same posting? If you think you have a complaint, you should contact the job moderators.
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Laureana Pavon
Uruguay
Local time: 20:14
Ahli (2007)
Bahasa Inggeris hingga Bahasa Sepanyol
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PENYELARAS TOPIC STARTER | Thanks for the support | Jan 7, 2009 |
I agree that if this outsourcer were in Europe or the US he/she would be prosecuted.
The position being offered is in Argentina, a country where gender discrimination is rampant, despite having a female president. Since I cannot change Argentine culture (I'm Argentine myself), I can at least ask ProZ.com to screen this type of offers.
Thanks for letting me know that I'm not the only one to find this wrong.
(a very angry) Laureana
[Edite... See more I agree that if this outsourcer were in Europe or the US he/she would be prosecuted.
The position being offered is in Argentina, a country where gender discrimination is rampant, despite having a female president. Since I cannot change Argentine culture (I'm Argentine myself), I can at least ask ProZ.com to screen this type of offers.
Thanks for letting me know that I'm not the only one to find this wrong.
(a very angry) Laureana
[Edited at 2009-01-07 21:14 GMT]
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Carlos Martinez
Local time: 20:14
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| I definitely agree with Laureana | Jan 7, 2009 |
This type of discrimination should not be tolerated at all on ProZ.com
Unless for very, very specific reasons (like the voice over jobs mentioned above) gender discrimination (or any other kind of discrimination for that matter) should not be tolerated.
[Edited at 2009-01-07 21:01 GMT]
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Laureana Pavon
Uruguay
Local time: 20:14
Ahli (2007)
Bahasa Inggeris hingga Bahasa Sepanyol
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PENYELARAS TOPIC STARTER
My intention is not that the person who posted the job be banned from ProZ.com, simply that all posts be better screened so that this type of offer does not reach my mailbox.
I have already contacted a jobs moderator, let's hope the offensive offer is removed immediately.
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| It's in the title of the posting | Jan 7, 2009 |
In-house translation/editing position (Male only)
According to the posting, the job would be is Buenos Aires.
(I am not sure about discrimination laws there.)
As to in what situation it is acceptable, that is a gray area in many cases.
Long time ago, when I was working on a tech. support team in-house, helping clients with sometimes quite complicated technical applications, we received a call where the person (a male) requested an engineer to talk wi... See more In-house translation/editing position (Male only)
According to the posting, the job would be is Buenos Aires.
(I am not sure about discrimination laws there.)
As to in what situation it is acceptable, that is a gray area in many cases.
Long time ago, when I was working on a tech. support team in-house, helping clients with sometimes quite complicated technical applications, we received a call where the person (a male) requested an engineer to talk with his boss about his application, and he said the engineer MUST be a male. We were shocked, but then he explained that his boss is a Buddhist monk and that particular branch of Buddhism forbids the monk to talk to women (for any reason). He could have talked to a female engineer through his male secretary, but given the complications that would introduce, it wasn't practical. (The secretary did not understand the technical issues the monk needed help with.)
So we put a male engineer on the line, no problem.
Just an interesting story. ▲ Collapse
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I completely agree with Laureana this should not be tolerated...
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Natalie
Poland
Local time: 01:14
Ahli (2002)
Bahasa Inggeris hingga Bahasa Rusia
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PENYELARAS SITE LOCALIZER
Once again, I would like to ask everybody - if you notice anything wrong in the job ads - to click the "Contact jobs moderators if there is a problem with this job posting" link in the bottom of the page. Please do this first thing - you may discuss in the forum afterwards.
The job has been removed and the job poster asked to familiarize with the site rules.
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Evert DELOOF-SYS
Belgium
Local time: 01:14
Ahli
Bahasa Inggeris hingga Bahasa Belanda
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| Said job has been squashed | Jan 7, 2009 |
Please note that many posters who have been vetted in the past (etc) can post jobs which normally don't go through a vetting process. Yet many of those posts are still being checked (in the end), be it by a ProZ.com member or by a Job Moderator.
If anyone spots a job containing irregularities, simply notify one of the Job Moderators or ProZ.com Staff.
No need to post it in a/any forum
Many thanks!
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Rod Walters
Jepun
Local time: 08:14
Bahasa Jepun hingga Bahasa Inggeris
| My guess is that they'll pick a male anyway | Jan 7, 2009 |
Females, I think you're out of luck on this job, for whatever reason. At which point did you hope to find out - before or after you made your application?
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| The way we are | Jan 8, 2009 |
Evert DELOOF-SYS wrote: ...No need to post it in a/any forum
Oh come on, you know Proz posters just enjoy kvetching
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