Japanese to English - Bilingual Host/Hostess Penyiaran jaluran : Andreas Baranowski
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This posting was vetted OK by Proz. I don’t feel comfortable with this. Are we in the host/hostess business now?
[Edited at 2009-02-27 18:01 GMT]
| | | | Ralf Lemster 
Jerman
Local time: 07:56
Bahasa Inggeris hingga Bahasa Jerman
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| Submit a Support Request | Feb 27, 2009 |
Hi Andreas,
As announced about a month ago, ProZ.com staff are now responsible for the vetting of jobs. Please submit a Support Request, indicating the URL of the job posting concerned.
Best regards,
Ralf
| | | | Andreas Baranowski
Jepun
Local time: 14:56
Bahasa Jepun hingga Bahasa Jerman
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TOPIC STARTER
Ralf Lemster wrote:
Hi Andreas,
As announced about a month ago, ProZ.com staff are now responsible for the vetting of jobs. Please submit a Support Request, indicating the URL of the job posting concerned.
Best regards,
Ralf
http://www.proz.com/ticket/110240
| | | | Sheila Wilson
Sepanyol
Local time: 06:56
Ahli (2007)
Bahasa Inggeris
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| Certainly on the fringes of ProZ remit | Feb 27, 2009 |
A while ago, there was a post for a bilingual secretary which I queried with the ProZ staff. They said that it was on the fringes of what was acceptable, but that they thought it was OK.
This sounds as though it would be right on the frayed edge of the fringe. It depends to some extent, of course, on what is implied by "host/hostess". It could be more-or-less an interpreting job, but it could be something entirely different, involving something that needs no interpreting ... See more A while ago, there was a post for a bilingual secretary which I queried with the ProZ staff. They said that it was on the fringes of what was acceptable, but that they thought it was OK.
This sounds as though it would be right on the frayed edge of the fringe. It depends to some extent, of course, on what is implied by "host/hostess". It could be more-or-less an interpreting job, but it could be something entirely different, involving something that needs no interpreting ▲ Collapse
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Andreas Baranowski
Jepun
Local time: 14:56
Bahasa Jepun hingga Bahasa Jerman
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TOPIC STARTER | Host/hostess business on Proz | Feb 27, 2009 |
Sheila Wilson wrote:
A while ago, there was a post for a bilingual secretary which I queried with the ProZ staff. They said that it was on the fringes of what was acceptable, but that they thought it was OK.
This sounds as though it would be right on the frayed edge of the fringe. It depends to some extent, of course, on what is implied by "host/hostess". It could be more-or-less an interpreting job, but it could be something entirely different, involving something that needs no interpreting
Very well. But In this instance the outsourcers's requirement is host/hostess. It is _not_ translator or interpreter. I have no problems whatsoever with Proz.com's commercial objectives but I don' t see how host/hostess (No experience required, is what the outsourcer says) cannot damage our profile as language professionals.
Regards
AB
[Edited at 2009-02-27 17:36 GMT]
[Edited at 2009-02-27 17:37 GMT]
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| | | | | Well, it is controversial, but it may be just lack of info | Feb 27, 2009 |
The job category says "interpretation", so it is there in the job description, although it does not seem like a real interpretation job. I do not assume that "host/hostess" means " those "special" services others were wondering about, it is more likely a trade show and they need people at their booth or hospitality cubicle to give out flyers, catalogs and refreshments. Corporations regularly hire young people for that.
This job posting seems to target high school or college students (whic... See more The job category says "interpretation", so it is there in the job description, although it does not seem like a real interpretation job. I do not assume that "host/hostess" means " those "special" services others were wondering about, it is more likely a trade show and they need people at their booth or hospitality cubicle to give out flyers, catalogs and refreshments. Corporations regularly hire young people for that.
This job posting seems to target high school or college students (which seems appropriate to me, given that no experience is needed), the only strange thing is that as far as I know, Student members of ProZ cannot quote on jobs... So I think those that are wondering about this job posting, may have a point... ▲ Collapse
| | | | Andreas Baranowski
Jepun
Local time: 14:56
Bahasa Jepun hingga Bahasa Jerman
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TOPIC STARTER | Host / hostess business at Proz | Feb 27, 2009 |
Katalin Horvath McClure wrote:
The job category says "interpretation", so it is there in the job description
The job description says "interpreting job / inhouse position," which is a misrepresentation of the job described in the following, unless I am missing something. I am not concerned about "what else" it could mean. The only point I am trying to drive home is that if Proz understands itself as a place for language professionals, I don't see much of that reflected in a want-for a host/hostess with "no experience required." To put it plain, who at Proz, paying member or not, does or would want to recognize themselves in this description?
Regards
AB
| | | | Sheila Wilson
Sepanyol
Local time: 06:56
Ahli (2007)
Bahasa Inggeris
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| So true - bilingual doesn't automatically equal interpreter | Feb 28, 2009 |
Andreas Baranowski wrote:
I have no problems whatsoever with Proz.com's commercial objectives but I don' t see how host/hostess (No experience required, is what the outsourcer says) cannot damage our profile as language professionals.
I agree entirely that this type of posting is inappropriate. They are looking for someone with no qualifications, no experience, who just happens to speak two languages reasonably well rather than just one - they aren't looking for a language professional, so they shouldn't be looking here.
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