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Refugio
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| How do I donate Browniz? | Aug 3, 2006 |
I participate in KudoZ for reasons other than points, and I am no longer a Platinum member for reasons of principle. Happy to donate 32,000 BrowniZ if anyone can use them. That would buy discounts for eight people.
| | | | gianfranco 
Brazil
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| How to donate your excess BrowniZ to a colleague | Aug 3, 2006 |
Dear Ruth, and sofiablu, and others asking the same question
From your "user info" box, visible on the Home page (where is your name), you can click on the BrowniZ figure, and reach a page with a detail of your BrowniZ points.
In that page, you can see a box on top, with a link to the following page: http://eng.proz.com/?sp=bz_donate
where you can find a detailed descri... See more Dear Ruth, and sofiablu, and others asking the same question
From your "user info" box, visible on the Home page (where is your name), you can click on the BrowniZ figure, and reach a page with a detail of your BrowniZ points.
In that page, you can see a box on top, with a link to the following page: http://eng.proz.com/?sp=bz_donate
where you can find a detailed description of the procedure for donating your excess Browniz points.
Note that only members can donate BrowniZ, and the points must be used by the recipient within a week to purchase a membership, or they come back to the original owner.
bye
Gianfranco
[Edited at 2006-09-02 20:44] ▲ Collapse
| | | | Refugio
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| Let me get this straight. | Aug 4, 2006 |
Gianfranco Manca wrote:
Dear Ruth, and sofiablu, and others asking the same question
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Note that only members can donate BrowniZ, and the points must be used by the recipient within a week to purchase a membership, or they come back to the original owner.
bye
Gianfranco
[Edited at 2006-08-03 23:00]
Let me get this straight. In order to donate unused Browniz, I would have to buy an unwanted membership and also develop my own list of recipients?
[Edited at 2006-08-04 14:02]
| | | | gianfranco
Brazil
Local time: 16:59
Ahli (2001)
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| Clarification | Aug 4, 2006 |
Ruth Henderson wrote:
Let me get this straight. In order to donate unwanted Browniz, I would have to buy an unwanted membership and also develop my own list of recipients?
I'll help you to get it even straighter. You don't have to do anything unwanted.
bye
Gianfranco
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Refugio
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Gianfranco Manca wrote:
I'll help you to get it even straighter. You don't have to do anything unwanted.
Since my offer was unselfish, I believe your sarcasm is uncalled for.
| | | | gianfranco
Brazil
Local time: 16:59
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| Just ignore the donation scheme | Aug 4, 2006 |
Ruth Henderson wrote:
Since my offer was unselfish, I believe your sarcasm is uncalled for.
Dear Ruth,
If the BrowniZ donation scheme doesn't apply to you (donors must be members), just ignore it.
Your outraged answer to my information is what appears to me uncalled for.
bye
Gianfranco
| | | | Refugio
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| Scheme? What scheme? | Aug 28, 2006 |
Gianfranco Manca wrote:
[If the BrowniZ donation scheme doesn't apply to you (donors must be members), just ignore it.
bye
Gianfranco
Gee. I never suspected it was a "scheme". Fascinating choice of words. Now you have me wondering more than ever about the motives of ProZ (to say nothing of the value of Kudoz).
| | | | Kim Metzger
Mexico
Local time: 13:59
Bahasa Jerman hingga Bahasa Inggeris
| Perfectly innocent British English | Aug 28, 2006 |
Ruth Henderson wrote:
Gee. I never suspected it was a "scheme". Fascinating choice of words. Now you have me wondering more than ever about the motives of ProZ (to say nothing of the value of Kudoz).
Ruth, there's nothing sinister about "scheme" as used by our colleagues across the pond.
http://www.peak.org/~jeremy/dictionary/dictionary/dictionary.php?search=scheme
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Uldis Liepkalns
Latvia
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please don't read what was not written. And please note that not all moderators (myself included) are native English speakers.
But yes- AFAIK, ProZ.com is privately owned commercial venue and as such it can implement its discounts policy in any way it wants.
About motives- I think I will not give away any great secret, if I'll speculate that motives of ProZ are to provide its members with a service of highest quality, which in turn enables the Site to exist with a profi... See more please don't read what was not written. And please note that not all moderators (myself included) are native English speakers.
But yes- AFAIK, ProZ.com is privately owned commercial venue and as such it can implement its discounts policy in any way it wants.
About motives- I think I will not give away any great secret, if I'll speculate that motives of ProZ are to provide its members with a service of highest quality, which in turn enables the Site to exist with a profit.
Uldis
Ruth Henderson wrote:
Gee. I never suspected it was a "scheme". Fascinating choice of words. Now you have me wondering more than ever about the motives of ProZ (to say nothing of the value of Kudoz). ▲ Collapse
| | | | Refugio
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| Question remains unanswered | Sep 2, 2006 |
Dear Uldis,
Since Gianfranco was unwilling to, perhaps you would be kind enough to help me understand why a donation of excess KudoZ would be acceptable to ProZ.com from a member, but not from an ex-member? My participation in KudoZ is not for the purpose of earning points or gaining any personal advantage whatsoever, and I do think that it may in some way have been useful to the translating community even though it does not currently enrich the business enterprise that is, per you,... See more Dear Uldis,
Since Gianfranco was unwilling to, perhaps you would be kind enough to help me understand why a donation of excess KudoZ would be acceptable to ProZ.com from a member, but not from an ex-member? My participation in KudoZ is not for the purpose of earning points or gaining any personal advantage whatsoever, and I do think that it may in some way have been useful to the translating community even though it does not currently enrich the business enterprise that is, per you, only a secondary motive of ProZ. So, why can non-members not donate points? Now it is just curiosity on my part, and I am in no way outraged as Gianfranco assumed, although it appears that he is. All I want to know is why. I seem somehow to have touched an extremely sensitive point, and it is not immediately obvious what that might be.
Thank you for taking the time to answer my question,
Ruth ▲ Collapse
| | | | gianfranco
Brazil
Local time: 16:59
Ahli (2001)
Bahasa Inggeris hingga Bahasa Itali
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| On prices and discounts | Sep 2, 2006 |
Ruth Henderson wrote:
Dear Uldis,
Since Gianfranco was unwilling to, perhaps you would be kind enough to help me understand why a donation of excess KudoZ would be acceptable to ProZ.com from a member, but not from an ex-member?
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Dear Ruth,
first of all, just a minor note: we are talking about BrowniZ, excess BrowniZ, not KudoZ. My opinion about the matter is exactly what has been written by Uldis.
Uldis Liepkalns wrote:
... ProZ.com is privately owned commercial venue and as such it can implement its discounts policy in any way it wants.
If the site owners have considered useful to offer the option to donate excess BrowniZ to members, and to not offer it to the other site users, that's their decision and their pocket.
My only intervention in this thread has been to explain the policy, as it stands now, not to support, criticize or express my opinon about it.
have a nice weekend everybody
Gianfranco
| | | | | I'd have to totally disagree with that proposal | Sep 13, 2006 |
Having had the opportunity of being a ProZ.com member in both capacities (basic and platinum), I believe that the ability to "easily" earn browniz in order to exchange them for some type of reward (such as discounts) is great. Some of us can't always afford the full price of platinum membership and a person who earns browniz is NOT necessarily a "monkey with a mouse". Some of the browniz earned are for valuable activities like formatting terms for the Kudoz Glossary, contributing to other glossa... See more Having had the opportunity of being a ProZ.com member in both capacities (basic and platinum), I believe that the ability to "easily" earn browniz in order to exchange them for some type of reward (such as discounts) is great. Some of us can't always afford the full price of platinum membership and a person who earns browniz is NOT necessarily a "monkey with a mouse". Some of the browniz earned are for valuable activities like formatting terms for the Kudoz Glossary, contributing to other glossaries, posting your own glossaries or writing how-to articles. If some of the other browniz-earning activities are easier, so what? Variety is the spice of life.
The browniz system balances out the playing field a little bit and, as mentioned so often before, in any case platinum membership doesn't make you a better translator, it only indicates that you have more money to spend than others who are less fortunate. ▲ Collapse
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