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Rebecca Holmes
Amerika Syarikat
Local time: 21:33
Bahasa Jerman hingga Bahasa Inggeris
My text (about a cheese factory), starts off with the "Käsemeister" muttering "Das ist doch alles Käse!" as he waits for his unsatisfactory measuring device to yield results on the pH value of the raw milk.
Just for the fun of it I popped "it's all cheese" into Google and came up with 97 hits for this phrase. Many of them look quite appropriate for the second meaning of the German phrase here (something along the lines of "it's all nonsense").
It strikes me as too mu... See more My text (about a cheese factory), starts off with the "Käsemeister" muttering "Das ist doch alles Käse!" as he waits for his unsatisfactory measuring device to yield results on the pH value of the raw milk.
Just for the fun of it I popped "it's all cheese" into Google and came up with 97 hits for this phrase. Many of them look quite appropriate for the second meaning of the German phrase here (something along the lines of "it's all nonsense").
It strikes me as too much of a direct translation, however. Is "It's all cheese" a "real" English phrase and does it have the double cheese/nonsense meaning I am looking for?
Objective opinons from those who haven't spent the past half hour thinking about phrases with "cheese" in them would be much appreciated! ▲ Collapse
| | | | Ken Cox 
Local time: 03:33
Bahasa Jerman hingga Bahasa Inggeris
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| not in my experience (NA) | May 27, 2004 |
I can't recall ever hearing anyone say 'it's all cheese'.
However, it's true that 'cheesy' is commonly used to mean 'poor/low-quality' (a cheesy hotel/motel, etc.), so it's conceivable that you could say 'it's all cheese' to mean 'it's all rubbish'.
I can't speak for the UK idiom.
Further thoughts: 'cheesy' means cheap or shabby, and it's generally applied to objects (including somewhat abstract objects, such as a movie, play or book). It isn't used in the ... See more I can't recall ever hearing anyone say 'it's all cheese'.
However, it's true that 'cheesy' is commonly used to mean 'poor/low-quality' (a cheesy hotel/motel, etc.), so it's conceivable that you could say 'it's all cheese' to mean 'it's all rubbish'.
I can't speak for the UK idiom.
Further thoughts: 'cheesy' means cheap or shabby, and it's generally applied to objects (including somewhat abstract objects, such as a movie, play or book). It isn't used in the same way as 'Das ist doch alles Käse' to say that something is nonsense; it relates to the quality of something, not its veracity (which is a roundabout way of saying I find it unlikely that 'It's all cheese' to mean 'it's all nonsense' would arise from 'cheesy').
[Edited at 2004-05-27 14:01] ▲ Collapse
| | | | Carley Hydusik
Local time: 21:33
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| Agree with Kenneth | May 27, 2004 |
Hi Rebecca,
I would agree with Kenneth... I don't think you can say that. I was thinking about how you COULD wind cheese into this, though, and depending on the register... I recall that some speakers of British English say that they are "cheesed off" to mean "exasperated". That might fit into your sentence if it's not too colloquial. I can't think of any American cheese images other than cheesy, which doesn't fit.
Good luck!
Carley
| | | | Ken Cox
Local time: 03:33
Bahasa Jerman hingga Bahasa Inggeris
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| Carley's suggestion is good | May 27, 2004 |
'Cheesed off' is a very common expression in the UK and Canada, and probably understood in the US as well. It would certainly fit your situation. 'Exasperated' is a good translation; it's definitely stronger than 'annoyed'. You can tone it down a bit with 'mildly cheesed off' (for many people, being cheesed off is somewhere between being annoyed and being infuriated, and 'really cheesed off' is about the same as 'infuriated').
[Edited at 2004-05-27 14:10]
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| Not in the UK either.... | May 27, 2004 |
at least not in my experience (in SE England). I've never heard anyone use the expression.
However, further to Carley's post, there are other phrases used (here at least)...like "cheesed off" (although it's a bit negative -feeling fed up, annoyed, etc.), "the big cheese", etc.
Aisha
| | | | RobinB
Amerika Syarikat
Local time: 20:33
Bahasa Jerman hingga Bahasa Inggeris
| Load of cheese | May 27, 2004 |
Rebecca,
There *is* an English expression "a load of cheese", meaning a load of you-know-what, but I fear that it either may be very dated or regional.
Robin
| | | | Jack Doughty
United Kingdom
Local time: 02:33
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Another expression in UK English is "Hard cheese!" meaning "Tough luck!". It's hard cheese on the Käsemeister if his cheese isn't turning out right. But I've never heard "It's all cheese".
| | | | Paul Lambert
Amerika Syarikat
Local time: 18:33
Bahasa Perancis hingga Bahasa Inggeris
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| Cheese cheese cjheese | May 27, 2004 |
'Cheesy' is used by a lot of people to describe something tacky and cheap, like a 'cheesy game-show host' or 'cheesy music' (usually 'throw-away' pop music or 'one-off' novelty songs).
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Heinrich Pesch
Finland
Local time: 04:33
Ahli (2003)
Bahasa Finland hingga Bahasa Jerman
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if you let the Käsemeister state: I say cheese all the day!
Quite another meaning but better than nothing.
| | | | sarahl (X)
Local time: 18:33
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would probably a close "food" equivalent.
you should probably ask in the kudoz section, see what people can come up with.
Otherwise agree with Kenneth.
Sarah
| | | | John Bowden
Local time: 02:33
Bahasa Jerman hingga Bahasa Inggeris
| I think most of the google examples are using "cheese" to mean "cheesy"... | May 27, 2004 |
"The music's all cheese" etc.
But this seems to be a very restricted use - it's certainly not a "normal" or widely-used phrase, and wouldn't be understood in the same way as the German expression.
You might be better off getting the Käsemeister to say something different if you can - maybe using Jack's "hard cheese" suggestion - "It'll be hard cheese if this doesn't turn out right" or something...
| | | | Henk Peelen
Belanda
Local time: 03:33
Ahli (2003)
Bahasa Jerman hingga Bahasa Belanda
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SITE LOCALIZER | 'cheese anyway' | May 27, 2004 |
Could the cheese master perhaps refer to the product instead of to the measuring device? So, he puts the whole thing into perspective "whatever the pH, it's cheese anyway", to take it easy at the very moment and to look for a better measuring device.
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Michele Johnson
Jerman
Local time: 03:33
Bahasa Jerman hingga Bahasa Inggeris
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| The Big Cheese? | May 27, 2004 |
Rebecca, I would definitely post this as a kudoz question. I personally would prefer some variation on Aisha's "the big cheese" suggestion. "Cheesed off" sounds a bit harsh to my ears for the double entendre you're looking for. For your purposes, I imagine a picture in which the Käsemeister takes up the entire image, waiting impatiently for his results, and a title like "Waiting for the big cheese..."
| | | | | post as KudoZ | May 28, 2004 |
Rebecca,
For discussions of this sort, please post a KudoZ question in the future.
Marcus
| | | | Rebecca Holmes
Amerika Syarikat
Local time: 21:33
Bahasa Jerman hingga Bahasa Inggeris
TOPIC STARTER
Marcus Malabad wrote:
Rebecca,
For discussions of this sort, please post a KudoZ question in the future.
Marcus
Hi Marcus,
Sorry, was actually hoping someone would simply confirm this as a real English phrase! Thanks to everyone for the input and suggestions, however.
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