Feb 21, 2010 10:22
14 yrs ago
Spanish term
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primer olvido
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This must be some sort of set phrase, is it a biblical reference? I can't get the jist from the many google hits
Pero, se puede jurar que aquella tarde el horizonte desde la plaza de España, pese al humo, el ruido y la furia, era prístino como el primer olvido. Parecidas sensaciones tendría, debemos reconocerlo, el cabo Alfredo Rodríguez tras su cancel del casco, después de haber despejado la calle con diligencia y obedecido las órdenes pertinentes.
The writer has been talking about a time when there were riots in Madrid between students etc and the police
Pero, se puede jurar que aquella tarde el horizonte desde la plaza de España, pese al humo, el ruido y la furia, era prístino como el primer olvido. Parecidas sensaciones tendría, debemos reconocerlo, el cabo Alfredo Rodríguez tras su cancel del casco, después de haber despejado la calle con diligencia y obedecido las órdenes pertinentes.
The writer has been talking about a time when there were riots in Madrid between students etc and the police
Proposed translations
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| 3 +3 | as pristine as it was at the beginning of time |
Isamar
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| 4 +1 | the first forgetting |
David Russi
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| 3 +1 | as the first (ever) lost memory |
claudia16 (X)
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| 4 | as the very first time you forget something. |
eski
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| 3 | the first memory lapse |
Bubo Coroman (X)
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Proposed translations
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as pristine as it was at the beginning of time
It sounds like it refers to a time when it was always perfectly pristine, so far back that the image is lost in the beginning or mists of time...en el primer olvido?
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "I liked the mists of time idea, I also gave the client the "literal" Freudian option as suggested by David
Thanks to everyone for your great suggestions :o)"
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David Russi
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the first forgetting
Viene de Freud:
http://www.elalmanaque.com/psicologia/freud/20k.htm
Estos motivos se encontraron en seguida, en cuanto en el interrogatorio psicoanalítico se llegó a la pregunta de si en el día crítico del primer olvido le había sucedido algo desagradable. A esta pregunta contestó...
http://psychclassics.asu.edu/Freud/Psycho/chap11.htm
The repetition of this faulty action seemed so pathologic to this order-loving man that he was quite anxious to know its psychologic motiva- [p. 270] tion, and when questioned whether he experienced anything disagreeable on the critical day of the first forgetting, and in what connection it had occurred, the motive was promptly found
http://www.elalmanaque.com/psicologia/freud/20k.htm
Estos motivos se encontraron en seguida, en cuanto en el interrogatorio psicoanalítico se llegó a la pregunta de si en el día crítico del primer olvido le había sucedido algo desagradable. A esta pregunta contestó...
http://psychclassics.asu.edu/Freud/Psycho/chap11.htm
The repetition of this faulty action seemed so pathologic to this order-loving man that he was quite anxious to know its psychologic motiva- [p. 270] tion, and when questioned whether he experienced anything disagreeable on the critical day of the first forgetting, and in what connection it had occurred, the motive was promptly found
Peer comment(s):
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Jim Tucker (X)
: Yes indeed, it is also a Freudian term. But in the asker's text it refers to the Fall in the Garden of Eden (prístino!) : Adam and Eve's first forgetting of God. Just "before the Fall" will do.
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| agree |
ERNESTO GARCIA MARIN
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the first memory lapse
the idea is that the sky is a clear space that is not "cluttered with memories"
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3 hrs
1 day 11 hrs
as the very first time you forget something.
Another alternative:
Your oldest forgotten memory should be intact.
Your oldest forgotten memory should be intact.
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