Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

cam

Serbian translation:

брег/испупчење на брегастој осовини

Added to glossary by Svetomir Mijovic
Aug 8, 2021 10:43
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English term

cam

English to Serbian Tech/Engineering Mechanics / Mech Engineering carriage for welding
A cam is a rotating or sliding piece in a mechanical linkage used especially in transforming rotary motion into linear motion.[1][2] It is often a part of a rotating wheel (e.g. an eccentric wheel) or shaft (e.g. a cylinder with an irregular shape) that strikes a lever at one or more points on its circular path.

Discussion

Slobodan Kozarčić Aug 10, 2021:
Шта би, колега Светомире? Ја сам већ навикао да од ове двојице доле добијам минусе, али то је питање за модераторе зашто то дозвољавају, иако ми скоро увек буде прихваћен одговор. Али да ни чувени Мортон Бенсон ништа не значи као референтни речник, ни докази/адресе које сам дао (чак је иста страница цитирана и код других)? Само ме занима шта је пресудило? Овде је једино јасно да је посреди неразумевање прочитаног, што је јако лоше за неког преводиоца, и да се на силу протури, рекао бих, лаичко решење. А, да, ово је само реторичко питање.
Lingua 5B Aug 10, 2021:
Meni izgleda kao da je breg, a ne bregasta osovina Istina, u wiki linkovima stoji i da se camshaft često naziva samo cam, ali jedan wiki članak se ne otvara nadimkom, već pravim imenom. Dakle članak bi započeo s camshaft. Na osnovu opisa ispod slike meni djeluje da se odnosi na onaj okrugli mali dio tj. breg. (Fig. 1. kaže u množini cams, a tamo su dva brega).

U vrhu članka vas upućuju da idete na drugi članak za camshaft.

For the part of an engine sometimes referred to as a "cam", see camshaft. For the name "Cam" and other uses, see Cam (disambiguation).

Ovo mi djeluje i kao potrošni dio, pa ima smisla za njega poseban članak.
Svetomir Mijovic (asker) Aug 9, 2021:
Slažem se sa prevodom 'bregasta osovina'. Videti.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cam i
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cam

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брег/испупчење на брегастој осовини

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cam
https://plattner.rs/sta-treba-znati-o-bregastoj-osovini/

Речник Мортона Бенсона:
cam [kaem] n (tech.) breg


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The camshaft consists of a cylindrical rod running the length of the cylinder bank with a number of cams (discs with protruding cam lobes) along its length, one for each valve. A cam lobe forces a valve open by pressing on the valve, or on some intermediate mechanism, as it rotates.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Daryo : Mr Morton Benson doesn't seem to be particularly technically minded - in this case he got it wrong. // you seem blissfully unaware that you are contradicted by your own reference, the relevant one: cams (discs with protruding cam lobes) ...
12 hrs
Да, сигуран сам да ти Мортон Бенсон није ни до колена. Следећи ћу пут свакако дати пример из твог енг-срп. речника. https://prabook.com/web/morton.benson/589111
agree Milan Nesic : Da, "breg" ili "greben".
14 hrs
Хвала. Милане, ипак смо били у праву. Но, овога ће бити још. Мислим клипова у точкове.
disagree gavrilo : као што и Даре рече: 'cam is a rotating or sliding piece' а не: 'cam is a rotating or sliding part' // хвала ти на помоћи 'левом руком' (а то и није било баш 'нерешиво', већ ми је било корисно и мишљење колега), али овде си 100% омануо ;-)
1 day 10 hrs
Видим да се друштво зналаца скупља. Чак и они којима сам левом руком помогао за цела два минута свог рада да реше „нерешива” преводилачка питања.
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брегаста осовина


The term "cam" refers to the WHOLE OF the rotating piece of metal attached to a rotating shaft, NOT to any particular part of the "profile" of the cam, that defines how far some lever ("follower") gets pushed as the cam rotates.

A typical example of a "cam" is a rotating piece of metal that is pushing a "rod" commanding the opening or the closure of an input or output valve of an internal combustion engine.

In this picture you can see two "cams" in front of the sprocket:




A "cam" is the WHOLE OF a "rotating profile"; here is a "cam" - it's the WHOLE of the rotating piece with a specific profile:



Not all "cams" have a simple profile with just one "crest" (брегаста осовина са само једним брегом) - the profile of a cam can be quite complex. Got no time to lock for a picture of some complicated cam right now.

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another example of a "cam" - a rotating piece of metal that is not a simple circle:

the climbing cam



the 4 "cams" are the green bits on the top

https://www.climbing.com/gear/2012-gear-guide-how-to-buy-cam...

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some more complex shapes:




https://technologystudent.com/cams/cam2.htm


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https://performancetrends.com/Definitions/Cam-Profile.htm



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in the same Wikipedia article:

A cam is a rotating or sliding piece in a mechanical linkage used especially in transforming rotary motion into linear motion.[1][2] It is often a part of a rotating wheel (e.g. an eccentric wheel) or shaft (e.g. a cylinder with an irregular shape) that strikes a lever at one or more points on its circular path. The cam can be a simple tooth, as is used to deliver pulses of power to a steam hammer, for example, or an eccentric disc or other shape that produces a smooth reciprocating (back and forth) motion in the follower, which is a lever making contact with the cam. A cam timer is similar, and were widely used for electric machine control (an electromechanical timer in a washing machine being a common example) before the advent of inexpensive electronics, microcontrollers, integrated circuits, programmable logic controllers and digital control.

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Disc or plate cam
The most commonly used cam is the cam plate (also known as disc cam or radial cam[6]) which is cut out of a piece of flat metal or plate.[7] Here, the follower moves in a plane perpendicular to the axis of rotation of the camshaft.[8] Several key terms are relevant in such a construction of plate cams: base circle, prime circle (with radius equal to the sum of the follower radius and the base circle radius), pitch curve which is the radial curve traced out by applying the radial displacements away from the prime circle across all angles, and the lobe separation angle (LSA - the angle between two adjacent intake and exhaust cam lobes).

The base circle is the smallest circle that can be drawn to the cam profile.

A once common, but now outdated, application of this type of cam was automatic machine tool programming cams. Each tool movement or operation was controlled directly by one or more cams. Instructions for producing programming cams and cam generation data for the most common makes of machine, were included in engineering references well into the modern CNC era.[9]

This type of cam is used in many simple electromechanical appliances controllers, such as dishwashers and clothes washing machines, to actuate mechanical switches that control the various parts.


Motorcycle transmission showing cylindrical cam with three followers. Each follower controls the position of a shift fork.
Cylindrical cam

Constant lead barrel cam in an American Pacemaker lathe. This cam is used to provide a repeatable cross slide setting when threading with a single-point tool.

A cylindrical cam or barrel cam is a cam in which the follower rides on the surface of a cylinder. In the most common type, the follower rides in a groove cut into the surface of a cylinder. These cams are principally used to convert rotational motion to linear motion parallel to the rotational axis of the cylinder. A cylinder may have several grooves cut into the surface and drive several followers. Cylindrical cams can provide motions that involve more than a single rotation of the cylinder and generally provide positive positioning, removing the need for a spring or other provision to keep the follower in contact with the control surface.
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as far as I can decipher this text, the "cam" is THE WHOLE OF this rotating control mechanism, and the cam lobes are the "crests" on he cam's profile.



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... on the cam's profile.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Slobodan Kozarčić : cam - A projection on a rotating part in machinery, designed to make sliding contact with another part while rotating and impart reciprocal or variable motion to it.
34 mins
read the definition GIVEN WITH THIS QUESTION: "A cam is a rotating or sliding piece" => the whole sliding/rotating piece, not any particular part of it.
disagree Milan Nesic : You seem to be confusing "cam" with "camshaft".
1 hr
Reading the whole answer is too much trouble?
agree gavrilo : у овом контексту је очигледно да је: cam = camshaft
22 hrs
Хвала!
agree Mira Stepanovic
8 days
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