Feb 17, 2022 15:43
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French term
conjoncteur
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Computers: Systems, Networks
switches
Context:
Boitier saillie conjoncteur
Conjoncteur téléphonique
item in long list of components.
Could this be the old type telephone plug with socket on rear of plug to connect other lines/items?
If so what is it called?
TIA Chris.
Boitier saillie conjoncteur
Conjoncteur téléphonique
item in long list of components.
Could this be the old type telephone plug with socket on rear of plug to connect other lines/items?
If so what is it called?
TIA Chris.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 | phone outlet / wall outlet /socket |
Bourth
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| 4 | connector |
MassimoA
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| 4 -1 | Contactor |
allearz
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| 3 | splitter |
Bokani Hart
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| 2 | circuit breaker |
Jennifer Levey
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| 1 +1 | switched connector |
Tony M
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References
| Conjoncteurs téléphoniques |
Althea Draper
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Proposed translations
7 hrs
Selected
phone outlet / wall outlet /socket
I've always known a 'conjoncteur' as that clunky bit of last-century plastic on the wall into which you inserted the equally clunky male connector. See image.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you. Pity when you have to explain that it is a 2clunky looking object" but, there it is."
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48 mins
Contactor
Types of contactor include Electromagnetic Contactor, Solid-State Contactor etc.
Reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contactor
https://www.c3controls.com/white-paper/basics-of-contactors/
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Tony M
: This is a special term, quite different from the usual 'contacteur'; and how do you get a 'telephonic' one? / 20 years of personal 'experience' as an electrical engineer!
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1 hr
Jennifer Levey
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circuit breaker
I don't actually believe this is a good translation of 'conjoncteur'.
However, you might like to compare:
https://www.cdiscount.com/bricolage/electricite/schneider-el... (in French)
with
https://www.amazon.ae/Schneider-Electric-SC5SHN0262366P-Tele...
Note that the label on the product says "Prise téléphonique en T"
However, you might like to compare:
https://www.cdiscount.com/bricolage/electricite/schneider-el... (in French)
with
https://www.amazon.ae/Schneider-Electric-SC5SHN0262366P-Tele...
Note that the label on the product says "Prise téléphonique en T"
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Tony M
: I see where you're coming from, but I think this would be ambiguous and confusing; certainly Schneider are noted for some pretty quirky translations — I know, because I spend a lot of time having to correct them!
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1 hr
switched connector
I feel pretty sure this is a conflation of 'connecteur' and 'disjoncteur' — these old sockets included a switch that disconnected some N/C contacts when a plug was inserted (the same sort of idea as the old 'Plan 1A' in UK telephony)
In most other fields, we would talk about a 'switched connector' (or 'jack', etc. — cf. switched DIN sockets, etc.)
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I think it's important that whatever term you use does not introduce a spurious notion of this being in any way an active component: it is in fact purely passive!
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Note added at 3 hrs (2022-02-17 19:08:55 GMT)
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For those who need references, here is just one (of very many) examples found on Google of a 'switched connector' in a telecoms context.
US5567173A - Electrical connector - Google Patents
https://patents.google.com › patent
The connector is particularly useful for use in a telecommunications system, ... GB2426387A 2006-11-22 Switched connector for telecommunication system.
It is more difficult to find valid references for the FR source term, which appears to be extremely specific to certain limited contexts particular to the telecoms context in France — but the context that is available makes the intended meaning empirically clear to anyone with the appropriate technical knowledge and experience.
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Note added at 6 hrs (2022-02-17 22:12:00 GMT)
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There's nothing in your S/T to suggest this is an adaptor — indeed, part of your text seems to suggest that some other adaptor might be necessary to suit this particular type of connector.
And if it is referring specifically to the old-fashioned (obsolete) French telecom socket, then it does indeed specifically include switch contacts (which RJ-11 / RJ-45 don't).
Although it may be really obvious to you with the whole context in front of you, seen from this side of the screen, it is singularly unclear exactly what is being referred to here (and why?) — it seems unlikely that any current F/O system would be concerning itself with obsolete legacy copper connectors??!!
In most other fields, we would talk about a 'switched connector' (or 'jack', etc. — cf. switched DIN sockets, etc.)
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Note added at 1 hr (2022-02-17 17:08:49 GMT)
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I think it's important that whatever term you use does not introduce a spurious notion of this being in any way an active component: it is in fact purely passive!
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Note added at 3 hrs (2022-02-17 19:08:55 GMT)
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For those who need references, here is just one (of very many) examples found on Google of a 'switched connector' in a telecoms context.
US5567173A - Electrical connector - Google Patents
https://patents.google.com › patent
The connector is particularly useful for use in a telecommunications system, ... GB2426387A 2006-11-22 Switched connector for telecommunication system.
It is more difficult to find valid references for the FR source term, which appears to be extremely specific to certain limited contexts particular to the telecoms context in France — but the context that is available makes the intended meaning empirically clear to anyone with the appropriate technical knowledge and experience.
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Note added at 6 hrs (2022-02-17 22:12:00 GMT)
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There's nothing in your S/T to suggest this is an adaptor — indeed, part of your text seems to suggest that some other adaptor might be necessary to suit this particular type of connector.
And if it is referring specifically to the old-fashioned (obsolete) French telecom socket, then it does indeed specifically include switch contacts (which RJ-11 / RJ-45 don't).
Although it may be really obvious to you with the whole context in front of you, seen from this side of the screen, it is singularly unclear exactly what is being referred to here (and why?) — it seems unlikely that any current F/O system would be concerning itself with obsolete legacy copper connectors??!!
Note from asker:
| Hi Tony, Why not simply use the French and call it an adaptot/connector? I don`t think it is a switch as such, but fairly standrad telephone plug with RJ45 socket. |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Anastasia Kalantzi
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Efharisto, Anastasia!
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Bokani Hart
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splitter
As in telephone line / telephone / phone splitter.
Answer based on Althea's reference and Bashiqa's discussion entry.
Lots of images and references online to RJ12 and RJ45 splitters.
See, for example:
https://www.walmart.com/c/ep/telephone-line-splitters
https://www.cmwltd.co.uk/p/telephone-splitter-each
https://connectivitycenter.com/product/phone-splitter-straig...
Answer based on Althea's reference and Bashiqa's discussion entry.
Lots of images and references online to RJ12 and RJ45 splitters.
See, for example:
https://www.walmart.com/c/ep/telephone-line-splitters
https://www.cmwltd.co.uk/p/telephone-splitter-each
https://connectivitycenter.com/product/phone-splitter-straig...
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Tony M
: Unlikely, since it can be wall-mounted, in which case, it is just a '2-way socket'.
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1 day 6 hrs
Reference comments
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Althea Draper
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Works in: French to English, Spanish to English, English
Related KudoZ points
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Reference:
Conjoncteurs téléphoniques
Some examples are shown in these two links
"Conjoncteurs téléphoniques vous permettant de réaliser vos cordons sur mesure,
boitier mural en saillie facile à monter. "
https://www.hellopro.fr/documentation/doc_societe/281722_f4d... (page 29)
Various others shown here
https://docspike.com/download/recap-telephone_pdf
"Conjoncteurs téléphoniques vous permettant de réaliser vos cordons sur mesure,
boitier mural en saillie facile à monter. "
https://www.hellopro.fr/documentation/doc_societe/281722_f4d... (page 29)
Various others shown here
https://docspike.com/download/recap-telephone_pdf
Peer comments on this reference comment:
| agree |
Tony M
22 mins
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| agree |
Anastasia Kalantzi
2 hrs
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| agree |
Samuël Buysschaert
2 hrs
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Discussion
Je vois exactement de quoi il s'agit, j'en côtoie très regulièrement par contre je n'ai malheureusement pas le nom.
Juste à titre informatif pour les curieux:
Les installations et câbles téléphoniques
https://www.leroymerlin.fr/comment-choisir/comment-choisir-s...
Adaptateur RJ12 vers conjoncteur téléphonique mâle noir
Adaptateur RJ12 et RJ45 vers conjoncteur téléphonique qui permet d'utiliser sur un prise PTT au format traditionnel, de type conjoncteur, un cordon standard RJ12 (GGM 329926 et GGM 329927) ou RJ45 selon le modéle choisi.
This might be more useful.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-010
https://www.cdiscount.com/bricolage/electricite/schneider-el...