Feb 10, 2023 14:55
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French term

normes de bon fonctionnement

French to English Tech/Engineering Mechanics / Mech Engineering
T&Cs for a equipment maintenance contract. Not clear what type of machinery may be involved but it involves spare parts, wear parts, structured maintenance, etc. When I checked AAA online I found it was a company selling frozen food products, so slightly mysterious.

"Le remplacement des pièces détachées seront effectués exclusivement par le Prestataire, selon les normes de bon fonctionnement du matériel définies par AAA, ou à défaut, celles définies par le fabricant du composant de la Solution concerné."

Linguee suggests "serviceability standards".

Discussion

Mpoma (asker) Feb 10, 2023:
@Jennifer Yes, this document is rather badly written, to the point that I shall have to express surprise to the client.
Emmanuella Feb 10, 2023:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pièce_de_rechange

N.B. En effet : le remplacement ...sera effectué par ...
Jennifer Levey Feb 10, 2023:
ST = nonsense Le remplacement des pièces détachées seront effectués par ....
--> literally:
The replacement of spare parts shall be carried out by ...

You don't replace spare parts - you replace faulty parts that have been in service with spare parts that are in 'good working condition'.
Conor McAuley Feb 10, 2023:
"...to ensure that equipment operates properly/correctly, in accordance with standards determined by AAA...".

Toupargel or the likes maybe.

Solution, with a capital, should be a defined term, and the definition of it should be a good place to start figuring this one out.

Proposed translations

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standard conditions for operation in service

Careful, normes here does not mean a document but 'what is the norm'. Of course the 'norms' will be consigned to a document, but that does not make it a standard.

You'll find 'standard conditions for operation in service' googles to the content of loads of 'standards' in the documentary sense, but none that I looked at actually displayed the text in question.

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Here http://www.koh-tect.com/products/info/4
you'll find standard conditions for operation of a measuring instrument.
While they include such things as environmental conditions (temperature, humidity, pressure), they also include characteristics of the instrument that must be respected for it to operate correctly (resolution, accuracy, range, etc.). If for any reason those characteristics change, the instrument will be measure correctly. That is why instruments need to be calibrated at regular intervals.

In the case of a motorcar, for example, standard conditions for operation would include the depth of tyre tread, the quality and temperature of the engine oil, the residual thickness of brake pads, play in the steering, etc., all those things covered by your MOT.
Peer comment(s):

agree Adrian MM.
57 mins
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agree Tony M
8 hrs
neutral Zorra Renard : Sounds convoluted and unidiomatic to me.
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Good working order standards

The replacement of spare parts is the exclusive responsibility of the Service Provider, complying with the definition of good working order standards of the equipment as defined by AAA, or failing that, those defined by the manufacturer of the components of the solution concerned.
Peer comment(s):

agree Ilian DAVIAUD
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agree philgoddard : But you can't say "definition as defined".
54 mins
Quite; thanks.
agree mchd : https://www.lawinsider.com/clause/good-working-order
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agree ezpz
2 hrs
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neutral Tony M : Not really idiomatic in EN. And 'good working order' isn't really what this text is about — you've over-translated by adding 'order', which would translate an 'état'' that is absent from the S/T
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Thanks Tony, yes, you're right.
agree Josiane Lima
2 days 22 hrs
Thank you!
disagree Adrian MM. : another literal, unreferenced answer from the 'Zorra' aka Oliver T. alias Andrew B. stable.
2 days 22 hrs
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criteria/policy regarding good working condition

I imagine that in AAA's case, the ST may refer to equipment used to maintain the 'chaîne du froid'.

norme is not strictly speaking a 'standard' in this case, as it is defined by AAA and may include requirements that are more stringent than any published 'standard'.

Justification for 'good working condition' can be found here:
https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/good-working-condition

Peer comment(s):

agree Johannes Gleim : Probably correct. It's only a company-own standard or work procedure with instructions. Cf. ISO 9000.
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agree Anastasia Kalantzi
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neutral philgoddard : Companies can have standards, as Johannes says.
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So-called 'standards' set by individual companies are most-often nothing more than in-house specifications, but the companies hope that calling them 'standards' will impress their suppliers, customers and/or govt. inspectors.
neutral Zorra Renard : Agree with Phil, and with your comment in the DB above.
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