Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

bittersweet

Italian translation:

dulcamara

Added to glossary by Cristina Giannetti
Mar 27, 2003 12:22
21 yrs ago
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English term

bittersweet

English to Italian Other Textiles / Clothing / Fashion textile
IVY (name of carpet) shown in bittersweet

Discussion

Non-ProZ.com Mar 27, 2003:
traduzione io tradurrei IVY nella versione dulcamara, cosa ne pensate?

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v.s.

Bittersweet è anche la pianta Solanum Dulcana, con piccoli fiori color porpora e bacche scarlatte velenose.

Sarà mica di colore porpora/scarlatto?

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Pardon: SOLANUM DULCAMARA (bittersweet)

http://www.gifte.de/solanum_dulcamara.htm

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http://www.erboristeriadulcamara.com/dulcamara2.htm

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... DULCAMARA, 21854, 22854, Solanum dulcamara, Bittersweet, ECHINACEA, 21189,
22189, Echinacea Augustifolia, Coneflower, EDERA, 21191, 22191, Hedera Helix,
Ivy, ...
www.iralab.it/Html/Herby Line1.htm

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Il nome comune dovrebbe essere Dulcamara

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Tanto per la precisione:

Dal lat. mediev. dulcamara, comp. di du°lcis \'dolce\' e ama¯rus \'amaro\', per il sapore prima amaro e poi dolce del glicoside in essa contenuto
Definizione: s. f. pianta fruticosa, spesso rampicante con fiori violacei riuniti in cime laterali e frutti a bacca rossi; i rami sono usati nella medicina popolare per preparare tisane diuretiche e depurative (fam. Solanacee).

Versione \"dulcamara\" non so se sia facilmente comprensibile: potresti dire violaceo o scarlatto...it\'s your choice :)
Peer comment(s):

agree Katherine Zei : good sleuthing, Andreina! that sounds more correct.
12 mins
thanks Kais ;)
agree cindy880 (X) : si, è probabile che sia color porpora
17 mins
agree Domenica Grangiotti : nella versione dulcamara secondo me e' ok
1 hr
neutral Sarah Ponting : bittersweet is dark orange, definitely not purple!
1 hr
have you had a look at the links provided and at the definitions? The flowers are definitely purple and the fruits are red or scarlet...
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "grazie. Ho messo versione dulcamara (non è immediato neppure in inglese) e poi c'era anche un tappeto colore ginseng.. per cui..."
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dolceamaro

i don't know what that has to do with carpets, though.

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what the heck kinda colour would ginseng be?
never mind...
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3 mins

agrodolce

this is the translation although I can't see the connection with carpets!
Peer comment(s):

disagree Katherine Zei : agrodolce is sweet and sour, not bittersweet
22 mins
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1 hr

rosso-arancio intenso

Bittersweet is the name of a colour:

"bittersweet
Color. A dark to deep reddish orange."

The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language


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Lots of references to bittersweet orange as a colour in the web, e.g.

\"Bittersweet Orange\"
http://www.stockade-supply.com/cat-paint/delta.html

\"The color of the floss has frequently been described as orange and fly tyers often use the darker \"burnt\" orange or \"bittersweet\" orange\"
http://www.about-flyfishing.com/library/weekly/aa102700a.htm



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Note for Andreina,

Yes, I have looked at your links and I\'m not disputing the colours of the flowers or berries of the plant (you\'re peerfectly right about those), but in English \"bittersweet\" is used to denote both a plant and a colour:

\"BITTERSWEET
1. A woody vine of the genus Celastrus, especially the North American species C. scandens and the eastern Asian species C. orbiculata, having small, round, yellow-orange fruits that open at maturity to expose red seeds. Also called staff tree.
2. See bittersweet nightshade.
3. Color. A dark to deep reddish orange.

The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language

The third definition is appropriate here, as we\'re definitely talking about a colour!!!
Peer comment(s):

agree Nadia Ziliani
1 hr
grazie, Nadia
agree Katherine Zei : oooo.... nice shot!
1 hr
you win some, you lose some...but bittersweet is still dark orange as far as I'm concerned ;-)
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VS

guarda il link qui sotto e decidi da te che colore é. Nel gergo pittorico qui (United States) lo chiamiamo "alizarin" che é un tipo di rosso.
Andreina con porpora scarlatto ci é andata piú vicina di tutti.
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